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#17397 - 13/10/05 10:47 AM Re: Recruitment and retention premia
stmebme Offline
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Registered: 06/07/04
Posts: 19
Loc: London
Hello Tony,

does your MTO3's carry out some manegerial duties? apparently sepcializing in vents and anaesthetic equipment is not enough to be placed in band 6. From the tour that we had in the department from the AFC team, what would score you the most points would be having autonomy and managerial tasks.

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#17398 - 13/10/05 11:42 AM Re: Recruitment and retention premia
Stew Offline
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Registered: 21/05/04
Posts: 44
Hi Sue, our RRP has come to the grand total of £7,000 which may sound rather good. Unfortunately we were also put into Band 4(!!!)

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#17399 - 26/10/05 11:27 AM Re: Recruitment and retention premia
Dave Myring Offline
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Registered: 03/04/03
Posts: 3
Loc: Barnsley DGH
MTO3s were banded a 6 here as I ensured that the job description highlighted the fact that we were specialist technicians working in anaesthesia delivery and patient ventilation systems. Also emphasised in the knowledge and training factor that we were graduate equivalent with specialist training through short courses, + 5 years experience.
No decision been made about the R&R premia yet but as lead Amicus rep on site I will be negotiating with the SMT here very soon.

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#17400 - 26/10/05 05:00 PM Re: Recruitment and retention premia
Dicky Offline
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Registered: 21/06/03
Posts: 243
Loc: Cumbria
Have just received the outcome of the R&R meeting here.The good news, we will be getting it, the bad news, not untill sometime next year. Apparently finance (bless their little souls) can't cope with all the extra workload A4C has given them!
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#17401 - 27/10/05 08:07 AM Re: Recruitment and retention premia
Ken Offline
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Registered: 15/03/01
Posts: 208
Loc: Hexham General Hospital
Dicky,
What level of R&R have you been awarded

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#17402 - 27/10/05 08:16 AM Re: Recruitment and retention premia
Dicky Offline
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Registered: 21/06/03
Posts: 243
Loc: Cumbria
That's part of the bad news, finance can't work it out yet! Cynical view from the old timers here is that it will the bare minimum necessary to be able say it has been awarded ie £1 per year.
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Age and treachery will always overcome youth and skill.
Bullsh*t and brilliance only come with age and experience.

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#17403 - 27/10/05 04:35 PM Re: Recruitment and retention premia
Trunky Offline
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Registered: 03/11/04
Posts: 4
Loc: England
(waves to Sue)

Close to Sue we have at long last gained our AFC bands....
MTO5*---->band 8a
MTO4---->band 7
MTO3*---->band 6
MTO2---->band 5
MTO1---->band 4

word of mouth is that R&R is not required, which seems reasonable.

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#17404 - 28/10/05 08:18 AM Re: Recruitment and retention premia
chimps Offline
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Registered: 29/07/05
Posts: 13
Loc: Newcastle upon Tyne
Hi Stew, Is the £7000 you have been awarded RRP or pay protection? If its pay protection I presume it will cease to be paid after 5 years (Oct 2009). Is there any chance a review will help your cause?

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#17405 - 28/10/05 09:41 AM Re: Recruitment and retention premia
BSM Offline
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Registered: 20/07/01
Posts: 223
Loc: UK
Trunky,

Are your MTO4's Team Leaders?

I ask because we have some MTO4's who are not Team Leaders, and some who are.

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#17406 - 28/10/05 11:56 PM Re: Recruitment and retention premia
Trunky Offline
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Registered: 03/11/04
Posts: 4
Loc: England
no, they are not team leaders, they have responsibility for conducting IDPR's of MTO 1's.

Actually, I was incorrect earlier when I said 'no R&R'. in fact, I was supposed to say to no 'payment protection' we await R&R....

more interestingly, for (certain factors) which were common to all pay bands (mto 1--> mto 5) where the same terminology was used in the JD/person spec, we saw variatons from level 1 to level 4 in our 'matched' profiles. None of the discrepancies are likely to change a banding, but who the feck knows that the 'important' factors have been matched correctly?

T

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