Not so much a case of losing interest but being totally p****d off by it. It is now over a year since our job descriptions were submitted and we are still awaiting the outcome.

For those whom had received recruitment and retention.. is there anyone who is from a London hospital? Please let me know

Has anybody actually been paid pay protection and not RRP? Apparently pay protection isn't pensionable and doesn't count for overtime so I'd be suprised if anybody actually gets pay protection.

as someone facing pay protection, where abouts can i read information with regards to RRP?

Not very happy as i am the only person facing this within my department, waiting for scores to be returned, then hopefully getting an "upgrade" but wont hold my breath

Try the "final Terms and conditions handbook"
Annex R paragraphs 5,6 and 7

or "final agreement" annex H para h5,h6,h7
Available at http://www.dh.gov.uk/assetRoot/04/09/94/23/04099423.pdf

HTH Paul

Anyone else received the Amicus RepsDirect newsletter No 454 - 4th January 2006 ?

Page 6 refers to Annex R: Guidance on the application of nationally agreed recruitment and retention premia: Paragraph 13.

Q. Are Trusts that employ maintenance crafts persons and Qualified Maintenance Technicians required to pay the specified amount of National Recruitment and Retention Premia or can this amount be varied to a lower rate or not paid at all ?

A. The amount specified in Annex R should be paid to all staff so designated. RRP cannot be paid at less than the agreed national rate (£2,899).

It then goes on to say that Trusts can pay more if local conditions warrant it.

When I asked if Estates Officers were covered by this agreement I was told that it only applied to craftsmen. But I remember seeing Medical Physics and Medical Electronics Technicians on the list of jobs which had been identified nationally as requiring RRP - along with Estates Personnel.

Does anyone know if we got a nationally agreed rate for this premium payment ? - and has anyone actually received anything ? ?

Roy

Roy,

I thought the uplift of £2899 uplift for maintenance craftsmen was agreed between management and the unions, nationally, so that this would bring prospective AfC earnings in-line with EIB/EITB rates? As for RRP, generally speaking, I think it's down to local conditions and left to the discretion of HR in consultation with the SHAs?

Roy

Med Physics and EBME R&R to be set locally acording to the Terms and Conditions handbook.
We were banded here in September, still waiting to hear about R&R payments.

Ah Richard, I see you got there before me
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I heard the following comment about R&R payment for maintenance craftsmen which if true will not go down well.
When the unions negotiated the R&R payment, the national profile was band 3 for a maintenance craftsman. Now that the national profile is band 4 the trusts are saying that the original argument for R&R is invalid and they will be asking for it to be removed.
The unions had originaly argued that band 3 plus R&R payment would make the pay levels at a rate that would ease recruitment and retention problems. The trusts are now saying that band 4 is more than band 3 + R&R payment therefore the unions argument is no longer valid and R&R should be withdrawn.