#27129 - 14/12/07 12:59 PM
Medical Safety Testers
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Newbie
Registered: 21/01/05
Posts: 8
Loc: Salisbury
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Does anyone have any thoughts on the Rigel 288 or the Fluke ESA 601, and the use of using a 1 amp earth continuity current test.
Many thanks
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#27150 - 17/12/07 11:10 AM
Re: Medical Safety Testers
[Re: Geoff Hannis]
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Dreamer
Registered: 08/03/07
Posts: 20
Loc: Scotland
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Gerard, we have recently purchased a Fluke ESA 601 for portable use and like Geoff I agree it is probably over priced, but so are most of its competitors. I found the 601 good as long as it is used with the Ansur software in an automated mode. Using it in manual/stand alone mode is a bit of a pain as you have to change rocker switches for different tests etc but all in all it has been ok
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#27151 - 17/12/07 11:56 AM
Re: Medical Safety Testers
[Re: Speero]
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Newbie
Registered: 21/01/05
Posts: 8
Loc: Salisbury
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Many thanks for your comments, I will look back shortly for the views of 1 amp testing, but I am also interested in whether there is a view on the replacement interval of molded mains leads supplied with equipment. I have found that a mains lead will pass a 10 amp test and fail a 1 amp test. Thanks again.
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#27153 - 17/12/07 12:17 PM
Re: Medical Safety Testers
[Re: Gerard Sword]
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Adept
Registered: 05/01/05
Posts: 97
Loc: County Durham
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Hi Gerard Please have alook at the link below which is an article we produced and is published in this site: http://www.ebme.co.uk/arts/tpe/index.htmThis should answer why you fail leads at 1 amp rather than 10A (the threshold seems to be around 8Amps as the graph will show you. This is the reason why the 288 sends a high pulse current prior to measuring at lower current. the 288 is the only tester on the market that provides this technology. Any questions let me know. thanks john
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#27175 - 18/12/07 02:58 PM
Re: Medical Safety Testers
[Re: obiwan]
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Dreamer
Registered: 08/03/07
Posts: 20
Loc: Scotland
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Obiwan, we purchased the 601 as we do a lot of servicing in primary care health centres and it obviously wasn't practical to cart our QA-90 about. The point I was trying to make, and I admit I made it badly, was that if you're used to automated testers you can use the 601 with a laptop and Ansur software in an automated mode taking away the need to press buttons at certain times and possibly increasing the risk of user error. That said, I still think it is a good piece of kit and from an external servicing point of view I would be lost without it
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#27191 - 19/12/07 03:54 PM
Re: Medical Safety Testers
[Re: Speero]
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Expert
Registered: 07/08/05
Posts: 135
Loc: Somewhere over the rainbow
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Hi guys
In our department we have a wide selection of safety tester's, thus no-one can complain that they don't like a particular one.
We have the following: Rigel 233, 266, 277, Supernova and Primetest 220.
We recently had a look at the 601 and it looks ok. It is pretty easy to use, and looks pretty good for training staff with.
The 288 we have does take a little time to get your head around, but now that I've mastered it i do like it. My only complaint with this device is that it does seem to take a while to run through tests. It's not as quick as I think it could be.
But as I have said before, go for the dig out and dust down a 233. Its a relic but its a work horse! It performs tests, it displays the results, most things pass ok! Job done!
Regards
Alan M
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#27192 - 19/12/07 04:00 PM
Re: Medical Safety Testers
[Re: Alan M]
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Adept
Registered: 05/01/05
Posts: 97
Loc: County Durham
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Hi Alan We can issue a firmware upgrade that speeds up the testing to more or less a par with the 277's
Send me a personal email with your firmware version and I can send you the upgrade (doen via your PC)
regards,
john
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#27194 - 19/12/07 04:23 PM
Re: Medical Safety Testers
[Re: JB]
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Expert
Registered: 07/08/05
Posts: 135
Loc: Somewhere over the rainbow
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For clarification,
We've had it.
We are up to latest version. The point I was trying to make is that the 288 is not, and never will be as quick as a more manual click-clunk tester!
That said, it is great to take out into the field, as you can store all the data "on-board"
Regards
Alan M
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