Not only was A4C supposed to pay what the job was worth, but was also supposed to give the same grades for the same job across the UK. Apart from London Weighting etc, if a technican had a paricular job description in Cornwall the same job description would give the same grade in Carlisle. A4C was supposed to give parity by removing pesonalities, favorites etc. If the scoring process is performed correctly, job descriptions should not be under or overgraded.

This is the sort of nonsense that Jobsworths seem to enjoy!

As they say and what's that got to do with the price of chips? I swear you post randomly when you run out of things to say. I can hardly see what the relevance the article has to this thread, but it's just the way the UK system is, if you get on the wrong side of the law, end up bankrupt or take drugs you can guarantee it's going to cause you problems in the future, may not be fair in some cases but in relation to crime and drugs it's a deterrent. What would you have done if a youth commits a crime, send them on a safari or give them Playstations? If anything more advertising of the fact that youth crime can seriously f**k up your life would probably be a good thing.

I really do it just to wind you up, Chris!

What would I do? ... well, I'm a zero-tolerance sort of guy (so I think we can discount Playstations, safaris, or anything like that). But my point was that here's a young guy who's trying to make a go of things, and yet he's hampered by bureaucracy many years after a minor transgression. To my mind this is typical of the Jobsworth attitude often encountered in government organizations (of which the NHS is a prime example). Notice too that the guy has a degree, and is a healthcare worker.

On the other hand, I could refer you to many examples of bankrupts, scag-heads, and all the rest who seem to be doing just fine, thank you very much! Yes, it's the way the UK system is ... and it's rotten to the core. So, regardless of the so-called AfC ... don't look for fairness in the "system"!

PS: the price of fish and chips went up by eight bob last week! Criminal, isn't it?

Very liberal for you Geoff, I would have thought you would have been more of a hardliner send them all to borstal person. The story doesn't mention if the person was on a school bus or a public bus but if it was a public bus I would have thought that the other passengers of the bus would not have thought it was such a minor issue.

Also in regards to Government organisations it's often the Government itself who lays down these requirements and not so called jobsworths in Government organisations. So if you really wanted to discuss the article mentioned I think you really should have started a new thread in the Out of Hours section.

...and back to the thread, please.
This one has drifted as far as it possibly can.

By all means, start a new thread.
All further 'off topic' posts will be deleted.