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#38524 - 27/05/09 02:11 PM Re: Band 8a/b/c JAQ [Re: Neil Porter]
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Perhaps they should be known (more accurately) as "Administrators"? smile

The Japanese used to use the term "salary men". The deal was that they droned on for years and years, on a comfortable enough salary, with a reasonable pension at the end of it. What's wrong with that? Nothing.

The trouble is that not everyone is salaried. Like myself, for instance. Not much time for moaning about the minutae of AfC and which Pay Band I think I should be on (because I've served three weeks longer than the next guy) when I spend half my time worrying about where the next pound is coming from! frown

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#38542 - 28/05/09 08:34 AM Re: Band 8a/b/c JAQ [Re: Geoff Hannis]
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Originally Posted By: Geoff Hannis

Perhaps they should be known (more accurately) as "Administrators"? smile

The Japanese used to use the term "salary men". The deal was that they droned on for years and years, on a comfortable enough salary, with a reasonable pension at the end of it. What's wrong with that? Nothing.

The trouble is that not everyone is salaried. Like myself, for instance. Not much time for moaning about the minutae of AfC and which Pay Band I think I should be on (because I've served three weeks longer than the next guy) when I spend half my time worrying about where the next pound is coming from! frown


Precisely the point behind AFC its NOT about having more time served and ALL about having the skills and ability.
In technical areas you don't tend to get managers who don't know the job, but in clinical/admin areas these type of unskilled managers(co-ordinators would be a better title) are not uncommon.

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#38734 - 09/06/09 08:41 AM Re: Band 8a/b/c JAQ [Re: Paul Allum]
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I've done the JAQ now, based on an 8c job description and spec...lets see how they manage to get this out at a band 3!!!
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#38737 - 09/06/09 11:11 AM Re: Band 8a/b/c JAQ [Re: Gazpacho]
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Dr,
Would you be able to email me a copy please?
I may well be needing it.
Suzuki

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#38739 - 09/06/09 12:00 PM Re: Band 8a/b/c JAQ [Re: SUZUKI]
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Suzuki, PM for you
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#43068 - 14/12/09 05:05 PM Re: Band 8a/b/c JAQ [Re: Gazpacho]
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My JAQ has come back from marking by teacher, and should we say that it is better than I could have dreamed
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#43070 - 14/12/09 05:14 PM Re: Band 8a/b/c JAQ [Re: Gazpacho]
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Does that mean no more moaning, then? wink

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#43072 - 14/12/09 05:20 PM Re: Band 8a/b/c JAQ [Re: Geoff Hannis]
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Victor Meldrew is still very alive and kicking and will be after being made redundant as they cannot afford to pay me
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#43075 - 14/12/09 05:30 PM Re: Band 8a/b/c JAQ [Re: Gazpacho]
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"I don't believe it!" smile

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#43077 - 14/12/09 05:33 PM Re: Band 8a/b/c JAQ [Re: Geoff Hannis]
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that's exactly what I said when I saw the banding
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