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#42874 - 07/12/09 11:25 PM Re: Trainee EBME Technician Salary? [Re: Graham Roberts]
Jordan621268 Offline
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Originally Posted By: Graham Roberts
Under A4C all jobs are scored and then banded, depending on the score. This should in fact put identical jobs on the same band. Don't forget, its not the person who gets banded but the value of the job. However the people that score the jobs are not always the same, so you can get identical jobs with different bands, it happened here, but a few appropriate words (not repeatable) put them on the same band.
If Jordon feels he is doning the same or more than somebody on a higher band, he needs to see how both jobs were scored.


Hi Graham, cheers for this information - I didn't know that's how it worked!

Neil, I'm not sure what'll happen when my training finishes or WHEN it finishes even. But I've heard it takes about 5 years to get on the VRCT - but only 4 to be a state registered clinical scientist it seems.

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#42875 - 08/12/09 05:05 AM Re: Trainee EBME Technician Salary? [Re: Jordan621268]
Neil Porter Offline
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Seems crazy to me that they can have techs doing the same job, yet paying them differently. That is why I left the UK I was getting less than techs that had just been hired and I was teaching them! Glad I never returned.

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#42916 - 09/12/09 01:04 PM Re: Trainee EBME Technician Salary? [Re: Neil Porter]
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Neil We have to recall you back to the UK, your firmware needs updating......

You have been out of UK since 1981,well overdue... promise you the procedure will not more than two days.

We will also install the arabic help menu, and free Sat Nav option.

How does that sound?
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#42917 - 09/12/09 01:31 PM Re: Trainee EBME Technician Salary? [Re: umish]
Geoff Hannis Offline
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You're posting (daft) comments under the wrong thread (again), Umish!

Why would a guy who works in the Desert Kingdom, and has roots in Thailand, ever want to come back to the [censored] UK? frown

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#42919 - 09/12/09 02:25 PM Re: Trainee EBME Technician Salary? [Re: Geoff Hannis]
Neil Porter Offline
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Well said Geoff.

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#42994 - 11/12/09 02:20 PM Re: Trainee EBME Technician Salary? [Re: Neil Porter]
Panander Offline
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Registered: 28/07/04
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I say "should" because it seems that afc has failed to ensure that equal jobs around the country, or even within one hospital, are banded equally. And of course, not all jobs are subject to afc - such as all medical posts, and senior management posts with what appear to be negotiable salaries and bonuses. Why is afc considered to be the best way of deciding salary for some people but not others?

Originally Posted By: Neil Porter
Panander, I notice that your response on this thread contains a lot of 'should' does that mean that there is no definitive answer, especially as you are also advising another route for a career within the NHS.

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#42995 - 11/12/09 02:27 PM Re: Trainee EBME Technician Salary? [Re: Panander]
Geoff Hannis Offline
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Originally Posted By: Panander
Why is afc considered to be the best way of deciding salary for some people but not others?

Can you show us any post on this forum where anyone says that it is? frown

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#42996 - 11/12/09 03:42 PM Re: Trainee EBME Technician Salary? [Re: Geoff Hannis]
Neil Porter Offline
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Who sets the salary scale in private hospitals (Bupa) are the scales higher or lower than the NHS (depending on location I assume)

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#42998 - 11/12/09 03:51 PM Re: Trainee EBME Technician Salary? [Re: Neil Porter]
Geoff Hannis Offline
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The private hospital sector in the UK is, shall we say, a bit limited.

Very few (private hospitals) are of sufficient size to justify a resident in-house biomed, let alone a biomed department per se.

Private hospitals rely a lot on manufacturers service engineers (and why not?).

I know a bit about the inner workings of the Nuffield Hospitals, and would say that their techs (who cover an area, and travel around) are paid at the "going rate", as one would expect. That is, on a par with rates of pay in the NHS. Perhaps I should add also that biomeds working in private hospital scenarios tend to be experienced blokes who can be left to get the work done without "supervision" as such. Nothing to do with the "trainee" situation, in other words. smile

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#43010 - 11/12/09 04:53 PM Re: Trainee EBME Technician Salary? [Re: Geoff Hannis]
Panander Offline
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Registered: 28/07/04
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Originally Posted By: Geoff Hannis

Originally Posted By: Panander
Why is afc considered to be the best way of deciding salary for some people but not others?

Can you show us any post on this forum where anyone says that it is? frown

There aren't any; I didn't say there were. I would be very surprised if anyone on this forum thought afc was a good idea. My objection was to government policy.

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