Join the club. Or, better still, join in with those trying to do something about it!

The world needs to find its voice. The UK (with one of the highest per capital uptakes of *internet access in world) should lead the way.

* Pity, though, that most use it only for porn, or ordering groceries. But never mind.

I said HND not HNC, they are not the same.

Indeed. And as every Academic person would know (or, perhaps not, apparently)!

Just in case others may be unsure of the nuances surrounding them ...

Nice link Geoff,
So as you can see if you are studying a HNC you are most likely working as well, and so this qualifies as your "hands on" experience. Whereas in a HND you are most likely not working and so the tutors (should) usually endeavour to include as much practical work as possible.

So ... which one is seen as "better"? Or, are they in fact more or less the same (which is how I have always regarded them)?

So ... which one is seen as "better"?
HNC or HND?
There's only one way to find out........

"FIGHT"!!!!!!!!!

The pencil case v the tool box, is it a fair fight?

Should they be paid at all? They should be grateful for the work these days.
We have 99 redundances coming here. In the hospital not the department. We just have a few frozen posts which is effectively the same problem.
Robert

Is this what is meant by Lean Management?

No, plain and simple cost cutting.
Robert