#44856 - 19/03/10 10:40 AM
Re: Plug-in Chargers
[Re: bam]
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Super Hero
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Ye Gods ... this is getting worse (as in, more interesting)! Killed by his PlayStation ( power supply)? How? When he spilled his orange juice all over it? Or did he stick it his mouth? Wasn't it (Dickens') Mr.Gradgrind who said something like:- "I deal in facts, Sir, facts"!  [Afternote]:- And how many hospitals have PlayStations (and similar) on the Asset Register, I wonder? Or, for that matter, on the Risk Register? There is always risk ... like everything else, it just has to be managed.
Edited by Geoff Hannis (19/03/10 12:03 PM) Edit Reason: Added the afternote
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#44939 - 23/03/10 08:19 PM
Re: Plug-in Chargers
[Re: MikeX]
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Although I suspect only doing a Hi-Pot (flash) test between the mains input and low voltage output connections would actually revel a problem. Create a problem, more like.  Let's stick to whatever it is the Standard(s) call for, shall we? That is IEC-60601-1 et al. With emphasis (I would suggest) on IEC 62353. Next thing we know we'll be back to "mains on applied parts". You know, 220 VAC on iPod earphones! PS: I've not had time to read the article yet (and I'm out of cocoa). 
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#44955 - 24/03/10 10:23 AM
Re: Plug-in Chargers
[Re: bam]
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Super Hero
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I have already offered my opinion on CE marking. I feel much the same about all stick-on labels. Why should I trust any of them? The only thing I trust is my multimeter (if you catch my drift), and I would urge all techs to adopt a similar outlook. In fact I believe (hope, even) that the majority of techs already feel the same way. As I am seemingly never tired of saying (and as we all know), electrical safety is the core raison d'être of "biomed"! And (as the Guardian of electrical safety in hospitals) we must be ever vigilant. Enjoy your coffee, Brian. But just be careful with that kettle! That is, is the tingling sensation due to the caffeine ... or something else? 
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#44962 - 24/03/10 02:24 PM
Re: Plug-in Chargers
[Re: Geoff Hannis]
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Specifically on these plug-in chargers or power adaptors, I showed one to our manager some years ago which is appearing more and more in medical settings. It is a power adaptor with interchangeable sections for the various world-wide pin designs. This would be great as an elegant solution, if the interchangeable bits were not made of cheap and easily snapped plastic, and the contacts that dock them onto the charger were not exposed. When (note - not IF! there is form here) they break, this leaves two large copper contacts attached to the live mains in the wall ready for anyone to electrocute themselves on. And this device has a CE mark and BS kitemark. My manager tried to raise a report with the MHRA but they simply were not interested.
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