#51260 - 29/12/10 02:13 PM
Re: Has it gone in?
[Re: John Sandham]
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Thanks John, Sounds interesting, could you ellaborate a little regarding 'asset tracking data'?  Thanks,
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#51263 - 29/12/10 03:04 PM
Re: Has it gone in?
[Re: Robert Tattersall]
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Dare I mention professional registration (e.g. VRCT) where you have to keep a portfolio of your activities and how you are keeping yourself up to date and expanding your knowledge? This is then inspected - albeit at random - to make sure you are maintaining competency. Head back down before the flack starts flying. RoJo
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#51265 - 29/12/10 03:30 PM
Re: Has it gone in?
[Re: RoJo]
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Super Hero
Registered: 12/02/04
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On the other hand, I suppose you could always "maintain competency" by simply carrying on doing your job. That is, by being competent.  "Portfolio of your activities"? What's that? Do you mean your time-sheet?
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#51266 - 29/12/10 03:35 PM
Re: Has it gone in?
[Re: Robert Tattersall]
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Sounds interesting, could you ellaborate a little regarding 'asset tracking data'? I think John means a check on who is doing (has done) the actual work ( eg, by checking whose initials appear most often in equipment histories, job reports etc.). Either that or he his advocating the RFID tagging of all his techs (you know, to see who spends the most time in the coffee shop, chatting up the nurses, or otherwise "standing still")! 
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#51267 - 29/12/10 05:00 PM
Re: Has it gone in?
[Re: Robert Tattersall]
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Registered: 02/03/01
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Loc: Liverpool,Royal Liverpool Hosp...
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There's some guidance in DB2006(05)Managing Medical Devices. Section 8.1.1 recommends random audits be carried out to verify correct repair and maintenance procedures are being adhered to.Also, section 8.3.1 gives guidance regarding training and experience of staff.
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#51268 - 29/12/10 05:20 PM
Re: Has it gone in?
[Re: Geoff Hannis]
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Registered: 21/12/04
Posts: 449
Loc: UHBristol
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On the other hand, I suppose you could always "maintain competency" by simply carrying on doing your job. That is, by being competent. Dinosaurs probably carried on what they doing right upto the moment they sunk into the tar pit! These days there is the need keep up with your training and CPD otherwise you may find you've become the Dinosaur. "Portfolio of your activities"? What's that? Do you mean your time-sheet? I take it he means similar to the lines as preparing for Engineering registration and not VRCT, a time sheet just shows you've turned up. Although before I worked in the NHS the company I use to work for used job codes. There was codes for user abuse, bad workmanship, warranty failure, and various other reasons for failure. Along with tracking the number of times an item was returned in a year, competency and training issues could be identified in both staff and customers.
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#51301 - 30/12/10 08:43 PM
Re: Has it gone in?
[Re: Robert Tattersall]
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Registered: 07/09/05
Posts: 53
Loc: United Kingdom
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As part of the management function of a previous life running a medical & dental section, the engineering management system utilised record of experience charts to record the functional competence of technicians after initial training. On completion the manager and exec officer, as well as the individual would sign off as competent. This would then become part of their individual PDR and remain with them, just in case people like the VRCT/IET or any other professional body that the individual was registered with wanted proof. This information was also viewed every two years as part of a technical audit on the whole functionality of the workshop - inclusive of customer feedback and effectiveness of the engineering support delivered. Does anybody get there workshop externally audited and to what standard? Who sets the audit standard? If a technician entered the profession from another discpline what common equipment would they be required to be trained on, apart from elect safety testing, to make him effective to deliver a basic service?
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#51350 - 04/01/11 12:43 PM
Re: Has it gone in?
[Re: Geoff Hannis]
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Adept
Registered: 09/04/05
Posts: 89
Loc: The North West
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I think John means a check on who is doing (has done) the actual work ( eg, by checking whose initials appear most often in equipment histories, job reports etc.). Either that or he his advocating the RFID tagging of all his techs (you know, to see who spends the most time in the coffee shop, chatting up the nurses, or otherwise "standing still")! If memory serves me correctly there is a report in your database that shows how many times an engineer has worked on a model (and I think a breakdown of job types). It was used for initially setting up the competency list there some time ago. VL might be able to show you. As for RFID tagging the engineers Geoff, great idea but I think you'd unfortunately meet some resistance of that one.
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#51353 - 04/01/11 01:18 PM
Re: Has it gone in?
[Re: Chris Watts]
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Registered: 12/02/04
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Although before I worked in the NHS the company I use to work for used job codes. There was codes for user abuse, bad workmanship, warranty failure, and various other reasons for failure. Along with tracking the number of times an item was returned in a year, competency and training issues could be identified in both staff and customers. Yes ... I know all about Job Codes. They are often incorrectly allocated (entered).  The other problem at the moment is the database is on its last legs... not looking well at all recently. ... GIGO? 
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#51361 - 04/01/11 10:39 PM
Re: Has it gone in?
[Re: Robert Tattersall]
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Adept
Registered: 09/04/05
Posts: 89
Loc: The North West
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The other problem at the moment is the database is on its last legs... not looking well at all recently :-( If you (or your colleagues) need any assistance I've passed on my contact details. Feel free to give me a call. Things are going fine BTW.
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#51373 - 05/01/11 11:03 AM
Re: Has it gone in?
[Re: Marky]
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Registered: 12/02/04
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T'was like a Big Brother state though and did nothing for staff morale. Indeed. And what use was made of such information, one wonders? Or can we assume that is was simply used as a stick with which to beat the happy workers?  It's a well known "management" technique, that of setting everyone in competition with everyone else. It can even work well (in the sense of delivering the results required by the Organisation) ... in the army, for example! In my experience, given time, the happy worker sees through all that c**p, and (assuming of course that s/he is even interested in so-called "career development" at all) ends up simply "playing the game" (that is, "giving them what they want" ... but little, if anything, else). Oh yes, it's a great tool (but just one of the many) for stifling initiative or any semblance of creativity, and producing a team of, er ... drones!
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#51374 - 05/01/11 11:55 AM
Re: Has it gone in?
[Re: Geoff Hannis]
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Registered: 10/12/09
Posts: 11
Loc: Scotland
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T'was like a Big Brother state though and did nothing for staff morale. Indeed. And what use was made of such information, one wonders? Or can we assume that is was simply used as a stick with which to beat the happy workers?  It's a well known "management" technique, that of setting everyone in competition with everyone else. It can even work well (in the sense of delivering the results required by the Organisation) ... in the army, for example! In my experience, given time, the happy worker sees through all that c**p, and (assuming of course that s/he is even interested in so-called "career development" at all) ends up simply "playing the game" (that is, "giving them what they want" ... but little, if anything, else). Oh yes, it's a great tool (but just one of the many) for stifling initiative or any semblance of creativity, and producing a team of, er ... drones! Therein lies the problem. We were always assured the information was used for improving machine reliability but it seemed to be accessed most at redundancy time! Friction was created between some of the lazy types ("get paid no matter how much I do") and those with a genuine work ethic as the information was accessable to everyone. Then there were those in the middle ground who just did enough to get by and as you say "play the game". There is no doubt though that it can be an effective tool if utilised properly. There are several areas which can be picked up on, for instance, one tech does all the work on one type of equipment - is that due to him being happy toddling along doing that or is it due to lack of trained techs? If used the right way it could seriously improve the way things are done but as with many of these systems it is open to misuse or abuse.
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#51389 - 05/01/11 07:49 PM
Re: Has it gone in?
[Re: Marky]
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Registered: 21/12/04
Posts: 449
Loc: UHBristol
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Therein lies the problem. Sounds like it could also be manipulated, I mean if you've got a manager who wants more staff they could adjust the times to show they need more staff, or adjust the figures to make it seem their more economic. What do they say, lies, damn lies and statistics!
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