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#59253 - 23/11/11 07:02 PM Re: SCAM WEBSITES [Re: John Sandham]
Mike Burns Offline
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Well, well, fancy you not caring about the 'Little Old Grannies' of this world. This, after all the statements you have given us in the past about lack of caring etc, etc in the modern (UK I suppose) world. Tut tut. As you may suspect, I take the opposite view thank goodness. Perhaps these 'Little Old Grannies' who have probably never harmed anyone, paid all their taxes, live on meagre pensions are part of the 'Rich Westerners' culture that need to be fleeced by the low life.

With the freedom that you mention comes responsibility. Yes, and funnily enough I believe that this responsibility should even apply to the low life of this world.

Perhaps we should get rid of the 'Nanny State' altogether - methinks this is the route to Anarchy though. Don't think that this means that I agree with all the nonsense legislation that we see today, just that most of it is needed unfortunately. That's because we have low life living amongst us.

Don't think I will take up your suggestion of doing the lottery. If you expect to win that at odds of over 14 million to one, that's not sensible, that's dumb. Dumb or incredibly lucky, and I am neither.

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#59254 - 23/11/11 09:14 PM Re: SCAM WEBSITES [Re: Mike Burns]
Geoff Hannis Offline
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Registered: 12/02/04
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A classic case of "chicken and egg", surely:- Nanny State -> Dependency -> Low-Lifes (who then "need" the Nanny State to depend upon) ... and so it goes on.

But seeing that you mention it Mike, I actually care a great deal about the Little Old Grannies. Not so much "of the world" though, but more especially those English Old Grannies (but I thought we were talking about idiots being taken in by internet scams).

I happen to believe, for instance, that they often get a crap deal out of not only the National Health Service, but all the other so-called "services" in this country as well. If I fight for anyone, it's the Common Folk of England. And if I ever do work in hospitals again, it's those kind of people that I like to think I'm working for.

Sod the Nanny State. Let the Low-Lifes, addicts, chavs, benefit scroungers, thieves (same thing) and all the rest of the dross go hang (literally, if I had my way). Sometimes you just have to be cruel to be kind, consider the Greater Good, whatever. Frankly, we need a cull. smile

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#59255 - 23/11/11 11:12 PM Re: SCAM WEBSITES [Re: John Sandham]
Mike Burns Offline
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Registered: 18/03/08
Posts: 94
Loc: Wales UK
'Sometimes you just have to be cruel to be kind, consider the Greater Good, whatever. Frankly we need a cull'.

Well I never was a supporter of Jeremy Bentham and his theory of Utilitarianism - The Greater Good etc. Is it right to have an action, 'a cull' that would somehow make the overall situation better i.e. for the Greater Good. If the action was done in the name of the Law (whatever that means) then it may be justified I suppose. But if it is done on an individual basis i.e. I think we need a cull, let's kill a few people off, that cannot be right. If you are going to be serious Geoff, you must do better.

Saying that you fight for the Common Folk of England makes you sound like a little Englander. I don't mean that in a nasty sense, it is just how it comes across to me as an average Welshman.

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#59263 - 24/11/11 01:58 PM Re: SCAM WEBSITES [Re: Mike Burns]
Geoff Hannis Offline
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Registered: 12/02/04
Posts: 10300
Loc: the path less trodden

Just as we are all "required" to respect the "rights" of just about everyone else these days, it seems ... then I assert my own Ancient Right (paid for in blood, the true and lasting currency of life) to defend my own people. In my case, I am not ashamed to say that they are not only the Common Folk of England, but the Common Rural Folk. smile

Invaders may come and go (traditionally, we used to repel them, you know) but the Yeomen of England shall remain (if only because we've nowhere else to go).

I don't really want to become drawn into debates about categorising people ... but suffice to say that if you investigate the term "Little Englander", you will find that it was originally intended to mean something other than what it has become commonly used (misused) for today.

It would be a bit difficult to be (or even have been) a supporter of Jeremy Bentham, I would have thought (seeing that he was around in the 19th. century); but most of his stuff was spot-on from the little I know of it. A man ahead of his time, it would seem.

The Cull? Yes, (good) farmers (and park rangers, and the like) do it. It improves the quality of the herd, you know. Meanwhile, our own gene pool descends more and more into the realms of pond life, as chav begats chav ... etc. (also known, quite appropriately, as "breeding for benefits")!

Meanwhile ... back to scammers!

But only "average", Mike? Sorry Mate, but I'm not impressed. frown

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#59284 - 25/11/11 02:36 PM Re: SCAM WEBSITES [Re: John Sandham]
John Sandham Offline

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Registered: 03/07/00
Posts: 1711
Loc: UK
Interestingly, I was listening to the news earlier, and there was an american policeman on who had been under cover with the Mafia for 6 years saying cyber crime is becoming much more popular with criminals than 'strong arm' crime because it is much easier to avoid prosecution and even when prosecuted, much shorter sentences.
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#59286 - 25/11/11 02:41 PM Re: SCAM WEBSITES [Re: John Sandham]
Geoff Hannis Offline
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Registered: 12/02/04
Posts: 10300
Loc: the path less trodden

There's hope for me yet, then. whistle

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