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#59655 - 01/01/12 12:26 PM New PPM ?
Neil Porter Offline
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#59657 - 01/01/12 03:29 PM Re: New PPM ? [Re: Neil Porter]
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What's that, Neil, clear guidance?

Can't see stuff like that catching on here, Mate. After all, here in the UK we much prefer just to "muddle through". whistle

Interesting to note that "alternative strategies" for PM are being openly discussed (unlike on this forum, where threads talking about similar issues have been known to get "locked"). frown

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#59660 - 02/01/12 04:43 AM Re: New PPM ? [Re: Neil Porter]
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PM's should be discussed, it is impossible not to change, technology has come on in leaps and bounds since pm's were introduced. Reliability is a major issue as newer equipment tends to breakdown more often than their older counterparts and a lot of the 'high-end' technology appears to suffer just at the sight of the electrical safety analyzer. Why pm if you can monitor the equipment from the workshop?


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#59661 - 02/01/12 09:25 AM Re: New PPM ? [Re: Neil Porter]
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The reason threads on this forum get locked or deleted is nearly always because of you Geoff.

You go so ridiculously off-topic (or annoy enough people), that I have to take action.

Stick to the topic and it won't happen.
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#59664 - 02/01/12 03:42 PM Re: New PPM ? [Re: Huw]
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Yes, Sir! smile

My New Year's Wish is to see many more interesting threads opened by those who we may call (as indeed we already have) the "Fresh Audience".

I encourage all new members to post away ... and I promise not to respond myself, unless invited ... so let there be no more pathetic excuses for not posting!

OK ... stand back and wait ... ...

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#59665 - 02/01/12 03:55 PM Re: New PPM ? [Re: Neil Porter]
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Originally Posted By: Neil Porter
Why pm if you can monitor the equipment from the workshop?

Have you forgotten what real PM involves, then, Neil?

I recommend spending a day or two each week back on the tools, Mate. It's good for the soul, you know. smile

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#59667 - 03/01/12 04:24 AM Re: New PPM ? [Re: Neil Porter]
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Clear guidance yes! just downloaded 'Risk Criteria-based Priority and Prudent PM Interval Table' there are 3 columns for intervals, Prudent PM, ECRI PM and ASHE PM and in many cases they give different interval times. This table is sorted by Function, Application, Maintenance, History, Risk Criteria and Priority Level. So why should 3 bodies have different results. Bet you could find a lot of discrepancies between the different healthcare institutes in the UK. My question is "why can we not have a universal PM based on the manufacturers recommendations after all they built the thing"
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#59669 - 03/01/12 12:44 PM Re: New PPM ? [Re: Neil Porter]
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Only three? I reckon we can do better than that! whistle

In answer to the question you pose:- "because the kit is used in differing environments"!

Sometimes heavily used (or perhaps abused), sometimes kept in a cupboard the whole time. Sometimes operated by folk with nous ... sometimes not. Sometimes kept clean, sometimes left filty ... etc., etc.

So the manufacturers recommendations are simply a prudent (we hope) guide based upon what they see as typical use and conditions.

In my opinion, the biomed on the scene is best placed to judge what level of PM is required. And interval is not the only criteria. Some folk could probably manage to look at kit every 180 days (say) ... but what are they going to actually do?

I would interested in taking a look at that document you mention though, Neil. think

"Prudent PM"? That's a new one on me. But I kind of like the ring of it.

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