You're not wasting the forum's time, Phil ... but with a nod to Billy's original post at the beginning of this thread, it might be worth starting a new topic if we're going to discuss workers' co-operatives.
Yes, co-ops are relevant, but I think you'll find that takers are few and far between. You mention that the state is shrinking, but I don't see that. Successive governments have layered more and more control
* over the people, to the extent that a sizeable chunk of the population (it could even be the majority) are dependent. I see them every day, and everywhere I go:- the common herd, immobilized by sloth. Not many entrepreneurs
there, Mate. And that's just what the One World Government agenda wants, of course.
It's all very well talking about evolution. But some (most) of us simply can't wait that long!
Anyway, Sam and Dave have already got all this covered:- didn't they call it the "Big Society" or some such thing?
* Actually it's worse than that ... they seem intent on criminalising everybody as well. No doubt we're already well beyond the point where they have a "file" on everyone.