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#24070 - 17/06/07 12:25 PM
Re: Payment of telephone line rental when on-call
[Re: Geoff Hannis]
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BSM
Mentor
Registered: 20/07/01
Posts: 185
Loc: Here, of course!
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Geoff,
I, too, have met Techs who want the grade & salary, but moan about the fact that they are required to take part in an On-Call rota as a result. I agree that if you are willing to accept the terms of employment and take the On-Call payments, then you should accept that, occasionally, you are going to get called at home, and that you may have to attend work. In my experience, there are usually people who are quite willing to swap with you if your On-Call clashes with something else.
And to answer you question: Yes, they believe that line rental is worth more to them than being given an On-Call mobile phone, but ten years ago, a mobile phone was probably seen as more valuable than line rental. Now the tables have been turned, these Techs would now prefer the cash. Unfortunately (for them) how can you argue that you now want the line rental when the Trust has supplied you with an alternative that gives you more freedom (and is now probably cheaper).
Ultimatley, these Techs went for what was the better deal for them ten years ago, but the times have changed.
For my part, I have always been paid line rental, but if I was told that a shiny mobile phone was being provided instead, then OK - that's progress!?
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#24074 - 17/06/07 03:59 PM
Re: Payment of telephone line rental when on-call
[Re: BSM]
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Geoff Hannis
Hero
Registered: 12/02/04
Posts: 3044
Loc: the path less trodden
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Going back to Graham’s original post, to my mind it is almost beyond belief that this issue of payment for telephone line rental versus mobile phones etc. wasn’t threshed out during the AfC "negotiations". During that time I did two stints as an agency technician in well-known hospitals, and those guys attended seemingly endless meetings about every word (and comma) in the job specifications and descriptions being drafted (…meanwhile I got on with the work)! Goodwill? What goodwill? You take their money, you do the job, simple as that (... "my way, or the highway")!
In response to your last post, BSM, I meet many unhappy chappies in NHS biomed shops. My advice to them is always the same. If you’re not happy, get out (ie, life’s too short). Try the Dark Side for a while, and chances are in six months or so you’ll be running back to the NHS (the comfort zone?)!
No 'phone line rental in the Dark Side, by the way. You might get a company mobile phone, though, if you're valued enough. 
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#24093 - 18/06/07 05:13 PM
Re: Payment of telephone line rental when on-call
[Re: PaulKWJ]
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BSM
Mentor
Registered: 20/07/01
Posts: 185
Loc: Here, of course!
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PaulKWJ
Don't you have to carry a pager when you're on-call? If so, then you're still free to leave the house.
This is my point:
10+ years ago, mobile phones were (relatively) expensive, and hardly anyone had them. Therefore it was a bonus if you were supplied one when you were on-call (instead of line rental), because you then had access to a phone if you were paged no matter where you were.
Now, almost everyone has a mobile phone anyway, so it has lost a lot of its value, whereas being paid line rental has not - and even if you are paid line rental, you can still go out as you have your own mobile phone, should you get paged.
Edited by BSM (18/06/07 05:14 PM)
Edit Reason: Addition of extra text
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#24110 - 19/06/07 02:11 PM
Re: Payment of telephone line rental when on-call
[Re: Scottish]
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yraG
Newbie
Registered: 27/03/07
Posts: 7
Loc: Margate
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As stated before we get our telephone rental paid, we also have a pager which enables us to get about, and use our own mobiles to ring in, but our Trust is looking to get rid of on-call entirely, has already gone through 30 day consultation, the recommendation going to the clinical trust board for decision from our managers/directors is that it should be abolished, it will be nice to have more free time but the loss in earnings won't be so good and also its definitely a retrograde step as regards the service to the hospital and its patients.
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#24111 - 19/06/07 02:22 PM
Re: Payment of telephone line rental when on-call
[Re: yraG]
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techman
Savant
Registered: 03/11/03
Posts: 116
Loc: London
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Going slightly off track, but only just, I wonder just how many out of hours calls there are. From my experience, not very many. The reality, therefore, may be that there is no real need to maintain an on call service. Just a thought.
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#27066 - 10/12/07 04:54 PM
Re: Payment of telephone line rental when on-call
[Re: lee chappell]
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Steve Fisher
Novice
Registered: 26/05/05
Posts: 17
Loc: Colchester
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Yes, our Trust supplies a pager AND pays the Home phone line rental.
There is a lot of discussion at the moment in the dept about the validity of even having an On-call. When you analyse the calls and who gets them, our med gas side gets one or two every blue moon. The electronics side are mainly called to change fluids on our blood gas analysers.(Which is really not an EBME function but a Bio-chem job)
The Trust makes a big noise about saving money but seem unwilling to see the obvious...
Edited by Steve Fisher (10/12/07 04:54 PM)
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#27077 - 11/12/07 10:48 AM
Re: Payment of telephone line rental when on-call
[Re: Steve Fisher]
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biomedbill
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Registered: 22/07/05
Posts: 123
Loc: south yorkshire
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I missed this post the first time around. I think that Garham's initial point was that over the year the value of the line rental mounted up. We have had our line rental payments altered mainly because on call staff were on different suppliers and tarriffs i.e. cable. To simplify matters our trust set a level of repayment of £12 a month based on BT's basic tarriff (+vat). I think we would be a bit miffed to lose out on £144 a year. As for removing on call altogether that is pure madness. What would happen in an emergency? Will the trust in question stump up the cash for extra (spare) equipment?
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