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#21135 - 06/10/06 12:14 PM Time Sheets and hours worked logging
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Registered: 21/01/04
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Loc: E.B.M.E
Hi our trust has just introduced Time sheets in to E.B.M.E. department, so we now have to book all our time to specific tasks throughout the working day. There is even talk of us having to book the amount of time it takes to walk along the corridors between wards.
Before we just booked time to a particular job when it was completed.
I would appreciate any comments on this and if any of you already do this could you email or fax me an example of the type of time sheet you use.
Thank you.

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#21136 - 06/10/06 12:16 PM Re: Time Sheets and hours worked logging
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Registered: 21/01/04
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Loc: E.B.M.E
Whoops forgot to add a fax number 01270 273728

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#21137 - 06/10/06 12:38 PM Re: Time Sheets and hours worked logging
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#21138 - 06/10/06 01:20 PM Re: Time Sheets and hours worked logging
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Registered: 30/09/02
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Loc: France
Was the introduction of this time sheet done with full staff consultation within the partnership forum?

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#21139 - 06/10/06 01:25 PM Re: Time Sheets and hours worked logging
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Registered: 17/12/03
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Loc: Borders General Hospital
Personally I think time sheets are a load of rubbish and a complete waste of time. Who does what with them, when they are completed. Is somebody going to analyse each timed job and then compare similar tasks, being unaware that one service may be straight forward and the next one requires lots of adjustment and calibration.
How do you time, when a consultant or nurse stops you in the corridor and seeks advice? The important thing in our line of work, is get the task finished to a high standard, complete the paperwork, return the equipment to clinical use and get on with the next task.

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#21140 - 06/10/06 01:30 PM Re: Time Sheets and hours worked logging
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Registered: 07/04/02
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Loc: Greater Manchester Area
We dont have a seperate time sheet here. but we do have to fill in a section of our job sheet with the time taken to complete the job (regardless of it being a PPM, repair etc), we also have to alocate a bit of travel time.

from what I have been told, the information gathered from job times is analysed and used by the bosses to calculate various facts and figures (and secretly assess how hard you are working teehee)
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#21141 - 06/10/06 03:19 PM Re: Time Sheets and hours worked logging
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Registered: 12/09/03
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Loc: New Cross Hospital Wolverhampt...
We have time sheets here brought in to monitor European working time directive. They double up as on call / overtime claim sheets and are handed in monthly. The benefit they bring is that if they are filled in accuratly they can build up lots of credit for all those occasions when delayed in getting away etc. I currently have around 18 hours which when divided by 7.24 gives me about 2 1/2 days TOIL.

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#21142 - 07/10/06 10:33 AM Re: Time Sheets and hours worked logging
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This has cropped up over the years in many places I have been. Always, it was introduced by some management type who hadn’t a clue what biomeds do. It is a total waste of time, and should be resisted with utmost vigour. The good news is that it usually dies a natural death after a while. \:\)

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#21143 - 07/10/06 02:40 PM Re: Time Sheets and hours worked logging
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Registered: 19/03/02
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Loc: bristol
Ahh yes, the dreaded time sheets. I remember them well from my days aboard the good ship NHS! Introduced by a middle tier of management to account for how we spent our days toiling away. All good at first with exacting timings and reference to job numbers but then, after a few months, deteriorating into "10.30 1 hour filling out Timesheet retrospectively" and thence to "9.00 Work, 12.00 Lunch, 1pm Work, 5.30pm Home". None of it seemed to make a blind bit of difference to anything as no one seemed to realise that there is no "standard Job" and actually we were working as hard as we could and didnt want to spend time filling in even more forms!
Whilst they can work in your favour if you stay behind for a few hours to finish a particularly urgent job 9 times out of 10 all it does is promote new and inventive ways of making things up (especially on Friday when you fill out the form and cant account for 2 hours on Tuesday afternoon: I found "delivery run" used to work for me!)

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#21144 - 09/10/06 01:23 PM Re: Time Sheets and hours worked logging
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Registered: 21/01/04
Posts: 11
Loc: E.B.M.E
Hi Thanks for all the replies, It seems this has come about since we were audited back in march, and as the other workforces within the Estates departments (carpenters, painters, plumbers Etc.) do this it was recommended by the external auditors that we do it, in fact it was their top recommendation for our department.
Like PaulKWJ we previously had only to record the total time for each job on a time sheet (we still have to do this) but now we take anywhere up to half an hour filling in a time sheet and making sure it totals our daily hours and aggress with the times on our job sheets.
I now believe an increase in this type of paper work is inevitable and may happen at all trusts.

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