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#27507 - 18/01/08 06:39 AM
Re: VRCT renewal
[Re: Rob1234]
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Geoff Hannis
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Registered: 12/02/04
Posts: 3026
Loc: the path less trodden
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You're right Rob. To my mind, rather than have this emphasis on individual registration (etc.), what's more important is a department Quality System, properly implemented, documented and followed through by everyone in the department. That takes drive, leadership and vision, not mediocrity. Not once a year, but every hour of every day. 
Edited by Geoff Hannis (18/01/08 06:41 AM)
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#27516 - 20/01/08 06:05 PM
Re: VRCT renewal
[Re: Geoff Hannis]
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Barney
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Registered: 21/06/07
Posts: 21
Loc: England
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I can’t see how registration in its present form will be of any benefit to ‘Joe Patient’- our customer.
The only advantage registration could offer is to enforce a minimum qualification standard throughout the industry, but due to the ever lowering of qualification standards this also would become meaningless.
I worked at a workshop in outside industry that was one of the first in the country to gain the then BS5750 registration and it did improve quality (at an inevitable initial cost) but at least standards were set and monitored.
In my view the health service is only national in name with each Trust doing their own thing especially regarding Bio-med departments. (Or should that be EBME or the outdated Medical Electronics.) Surely it is about time that all medical engineering departments became a National department with agreed standards that would apply across the health service. One could start by agreeing on a national departmental name.
Barney
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#27517 - 20/01/08 07:38 PM
Re: VRCT renewal
[Re: Barney]
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Geoff Hannis
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Registered: 12/02/04
Posts: 3026
Loc: the path less trodden
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Medical Engineering gets my vote, Barney.
You're right about the divergence of biomed departments, even in seemingly similar, typical, district general hospitals. The differences in style, application of "standards", and general quality etc. can be quite marked.
And since the introduction of NHS Trusts it often appears that the good departments have either got better, or stood still, whilst the not-so-good .... (fill in your own answer).
The English NHS (Scotland and Wales, and NI, all have their own, of course) is a "big firm", with all that that implies in terms of management etc. And unfortunately the Trouble Shooter (Sir John Harvey-Jones) is no longer with us.
But I wouldn't be surprised to see the government setting "targets" for biomed departments, the same as they've done in most other areas that you could think off. Perhaps 90% of all PM's carried out on time, or some such thing. It's all good for morale, you know!
Edited by Geoff Hannis (20/01/08 07:51 PM)
Edit Reason: Be bold!
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#27520 - 21/01/08 12:13 PM
Re: VRCT renewal
[Re: Geoff Hannis]
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bcarlisle
Technologist
Registered: 16/08/07
Posts: 49
Loc: carlisle uk
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Is that not what iso 9000 is designed to do, not vrct. It sets the standard of work, work practices and procedures to be followed. It also gives you the quality tracking for equipment. Again this has nothing to do with vrct so maybe we should be just looking at iso 9000 accreditation because it doesnt matter if you then employ a monkey as long as it follows procedures and maintains the minimum standard layed down.
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#27524 - 21/01/08 03:12 PM
Re: VRCT renewal
[Re: Alan M]
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biomedbill
Savant
Registered: 22/07/05
Posts: 121
Loc: south yorkshire
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Forget the VRCT and ISO9000 rubbish Alan 2-0 to the Owls, c'mon!!!
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#27530 - 21/01/08 07:37 PM
Re: VRCT renewal
[Re: RoJo]
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Geoff Hannis
Hero
Registered: 12/02/04
Posts: 3026
Loc: the path less trodden
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Have you encountered any rogue technicians, then, Robert? Did they ever turn up again elsewhere (as bad pennies do)?
Perhaps you should "name and shame", Mate, and we'll hold a Kangaroo Court right here!
Better yet, maybe Huw could start a forum like this one?
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