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#28351 - 07/03/08 11:41 PM
Re: The VRCT Website
[Re: Jim Methven]
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Geoff Hannis
Hero
Registered: 12/02/04
Posts: 3026
Loc: the path less trodden
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Hardly "fine detail", Jim. Fundamental disagreement is more like it, I would have thought! Voluntary Registration and Certification by examination are two different things (two different approaches), are they not? And I imagine it will take more than just a "little effort" to convince you to scrap the VRCT altogether!
As your website clearly points out, there are fundamental differences between the Health Professions Council (HPC) and the Engineering Council (ECUK). I see no reason why those of us who are engineering technicians need to be, in effect, "doubly regulated". As was hinted at earlier, to my mind it all harks back to the age-old Medical Physics versus EBME turf wars (life's too short)! Personally, I see no need for all these little gangs (societies, institutes, associations). There are far too many of them. If people need somewhere to make their case, and vent off a little occasionally, why not do it right here?
I appreciate what you were saying earlier, Jim, but I would suspect that the "strength of feeling" expressed by some on this thread simply demonstrates that many biomed techs simply do not agree to the VRCT ideal (if that's what it is). My take is (now that I've taken a look at your website), many of us have no business being on the Register anyway (ie, because we are simply engineering technicians of the hands-on type), as we are, in no shape or form, either "Clinical Technologists" or "Health Scientists". The resentment is there because many seem to fear that NHS biomed posts will soon insist on VRCT membership. Personally, I doubt that this will be the case for those involved in maintenance and repair work. But, as I have already said:-
...having said my piece I'm going to step back from this thread now, as I don't aspire to climbing the career ladder in the UK NHS (or anywhere else for that matter).
Edited by Geoff Hannis (08/03/08 12:13 AM)
Edit Reason: Certification, not Registration
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#28374 - 10/03/08 08:52 AM
Re: The VRCT Website
[Re: bill_mcg]
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Paul Allum
Visionary
Registered: 30/11/05
Posts: 39
Loc: Kent
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Overall it is not a question of whether or not to join the VRCT. It is all about how to get on the compulsory register that WILL be here in the next couple of years. The government have made it abundantly clear that all professions linked to patient care (not just direct carers) will be regulated.
In my personal view the best way to prepare for registration was to join the VRCT and get a good trial run of CPD etc. whilst my job was not on the line. If you want to know what happens to those in regulated professions who let their registrations lapse just ask in your local Pathology lab, as they seem to have bourn the brunt of recent HPC "management issues".
Basically, not being registered will not prevent anyone from working, BUT, they will have to be supervised which will, probably, affect afc banding.
I am not saying that regulation is a good thing in itself, but closing your eyes and hoping it will go away is never a good idea.
Edited by Paul Allum (10/03/08 08:53 AM)
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#28379 - 10/03/08 09:52 AM
Re: The VRCT Website
[Re: Paul Allum]
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bcarlisle
Technologist
Registered: 16/08/07
Posts: 49
Loc: carlisle uk
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New jobs all round then I think.
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#28381 - 10/03/08 11:14 AM
Re: The VRCT Website
[Re: Noddy]
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Geoff Hannis
Hero
Registered: 12/02/04
Posts: 3026
Loc: the path less trodden
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The actual work of providing technical support to the users of medical equipment will still be there and needing to be done. What if no-one had their name listed on the "Register" ... would management (and the government etc.) let the unserviceable kit just mount up, and have the user departments rendered "unfit for purpose" one by one? Are techs working for outside companies "clinical technologists"? ... they certainly don't appear to meet the "spec" given on the VRCT website! 
Edited by Geoff Hannis (10/03/08 11:38 AM)
Edit Reason: Missed out a ?
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#28384 - 10/03/08 11:29 AM
Re: The VRCT Website
[Re: Geoff Hannis]
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bcarlisle
Technologist
Registered: 16/08/07
Posts: 49
Loc: carlisle uk
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It aint on my terms of reference or my contract anywhere about registration. We are employed to do a job we do it so this worry about if you are not registered you will have to be supervised (by who!!!) is complete bollocks.
If everyone stands together there will be no registration implemented unless it is free their choice. I have no problem with registration just giving away money to faceless individuals who do what in our name.
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#28385 - 10/03/08 11:51 AM
Re: The VRCT Website
[Re: Geoff Hannis]
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Mr R J Ling
Mr R J Ling
Unregistered
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There are a few thousand included on the VRCT. if employers must employ individuals that are regulated by the HPC then I guess they need just enough in each scope of practice to run a service.
I think it's pretty obvious that the VRCT is already influencing the requirements for fully qualified "technicians" already working in healthcare. It's intended to drive standards of training, qualifications and experience, up not down.
VRCT is about laying the groundwork so that individuals who will be eligible to use protected titles working in healthcare, thus be identified as fully qualified, working within the relevant scope of practice, can move over to the HPC register.
It's up to the employer to implement the mandatory aspects of HPC regulation, such as use of protected titles, providing CPD resources, becoming involved in training/education, setting up the career structure within their organisations, etc.
Regulation has benfits as well as drawbacks. Not everybody is going to be eligible. From what I see those that aren't eligible don't seem to be the types that want to progress, want to improve their situation. If they don't want to they don't have to.
The politics of registration, regulation, etc, etc, have been going on for many years. Regulation has been on the way for a very long time. Heads in the sand will not make it go away.
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