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#30123 - 25/04/08 03:13 PM confussed to select a course!
Eddie goudowski Offline
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Registered: 23/02/08
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Loc: egypt
I have a B.Sc. in Electronic Engineering background with computer engineering. I am Registered as Incorporated Engineer from UK. Engineering Council and planning to do M.Sc. but confused to select a course.

I was recruited as an army officer at Peacekeeping troops – United Nation for a period of three years. At that time, however, I had strong interests in Medicine, Surgery, Medical Science studies, not however, Electronics.

I thought about it endlessly for months and I came to the follow statement;

I care deeply about other people, their problems, and their pain
I enjoy helping people with my skills and knowledge
I enjoy learning, gaining new understanding
I often dig deeper into a subject than my teacher requires
I understood the value of learning beyond just making good grades
I want to do something for the posterity
I like to find practical solutions for making life more enjoyable and colorful Easily switch over from one task to another and take up different projects at a time
I believe that devotion to duty is divine and love order and discipline.
I would much like to be Scientists, Scholars or MD for life.

Colleagues and mates sees me as an imaginative, creative, self- sacrifice and have a clear social impact.

Now, it is so confusing to select a course , my further plan (soon) is to study an M.Sc, in Medical Physics, Bio-Medical Engineering , Clinical Engineering , Tissue Engineering or any Major where I could apply the mentioned above skills.
Also, it would be a beneficial to have a course that offer obligatory training scheme. I like and I need training lots of it " In order to lead we must follow".

please give me suggestion's which course I should chose which is most demanding in future and which Universities will help me in such mission

Sven Van Reeders

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#30125 - 25/04/08 03:38 PM Re: confussed to select a course! [Re: Eddie goudowski]
RoJo Offline
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Eddie or Sven,
What do you plan to do with the extra qualification? What career do you want? Let that guide you to the course you do.
But does the job you want to do actually require you to have a MSc?
If you are going to do one in the UK I would make sure it is recognised by IPEM. Check here for a list of these courses.
Robert
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#30140 - 25/04/08 05:54 PM Re: confussed to select a course! [Re: Eddie goudowski]
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Registered: 12/02/04
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You're not the only one who's confused, Mate! \:\)

I admire your sentiments, though (they sound a bit like how I used to feel), so I'll offer you this sincere advice:-

Get out into the workplace, start doing some actual work (it doesn't really matter too much what it is), and after a while, inshallah, the path you need to take will become clear!


Edited by Geoff Hannis (25/04/08 05:55 PM)
Edit Reason: I like blue!

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#30143 - 25/04/08 06:19 PM Re: confussed to select a course! [Re: RoJo]
Eddie goudowski Offline
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thank you Robert...Career that am seeking more or less in medicine research like. IPEM scheme require me to obtain an Msc first and go through two different stages of training within the NHS or MSc followed by a PhD (which would be too much Theory with little practice, I guess. working for the NHS would be a great start. what you think?

Sven

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#30144 - 25/04/08 06:23 PM Re: confussed to select a course! [Re: Geoff Hannis]
Eddie goudowski Offline
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Geoff thanks for your great support. I do understand where you coming from. However,According to IPEM I need tohave an Msc first to start to kick..and the NHS as I mentioned before might be a good start to understand the field nature, what do you think?

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#30145 - 25/04/08 06:31 PM Re: confussed to select a course! [Re: Eddie goudowski]
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Hero

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What do I think? I think that (being but a humble technician, who never progressed beyond the level of I.Eng with an HNC ... and that was way back in 1979) ... I'm not really qualified to comment further. "Hands-on" work, and self-taught in most things that I've tackled, has always worked fine for me.

I guess it all depends upon your aspirations. Perhaps you need to sit down and ponder questions like "where do I see myself in ten (twenty) (thirty) years from now"? Otherwise, why not do as I did, and more or less just take it all one day at a time?

When all's said and done (and considering the sentiments you've already listed), there's nothing much wrong with being "just" a practical biomedical engineering technician, you know. It's an honourable (challenging, rewarding) enough "profession", I would have thought. Especially for a humble, caring type of guy.

Not so much about selecting a course, as setting a course (towards the future). \:\)

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#30151 - 25/04/08 07:19 PM Re: confussed to select a course! [Re: Geoff Hannis]
Eddie Offline
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Registered: 21/02/02
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If you are going to do one in the UK I would make sure it is recognised by IPEM. Check here for a list of these courses.
Robert


I would advise that your course is IEEE accredited because they are the "Official" recognized global body! I am sorry but IPEM as far as I am concerned are a "Ghost" society! I have sent countless emails to IPEM and even gone as far as to contact reps through this site. I have never had a response, EVER!
It has actually come to the stage where I have taken this scenario to a higher authority for investigation!

Ed

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#30153 - 25/04/08 07:33 PM Re: confussed to select a course! [Re: Eddie]
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Registered: 12/02/04
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... higher than ghosts? Phantoms? Ghouls?

PS: I was going to suggest Murray Haszard, but thought that might be considered a bit too esoteric! \:\)

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#30156 - 25/04/08 08:53 PM Re: confussed to select a course! [Re: Geoff Hannis]
Eddie goudowski Offline
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Thanks a million for your answer Ed. I do agree with you. Although, medical/biomedical engineering is quite interesting field, but the engineers with all due respect are treated like humble technicians every where in the world (which is awkward). Study medicine from scratch would be fantastic but am almost hitting 29 years old, I guess it’s a late start! Won't you think? Plus, the fees is another issue as a non UK/EU citizen, I have got to be loaded with at least £ 90,000 for 4 – 5 years. I would be more than lucky if I earned 1/1000 of that figure during my three years of conscripted service. Paramedic courses sound really good, matter of fact I thought about one day I should have my own air-paramedic, which I will consider maybe in far future. Now, I just need to be a bit realistic and logic. Read and surfed the web, I came across medical physic or a clinical scientist! As I said before, I like research, science, ecology, medicine. When I have been asked by the good fellow Geoff Hannis the following question; what would I like to be in 20, 30 years time? well, I had the answer months ago, that I would much love to be scientist, consultant and a university professor who owns a charity of an air-paramedic service. I know, I may sound pathetic. Sorry!!

Yet, if I consider a PG degree in medical physics in UK, would it be easy to enter the NHS training scheme to be a clinical scientist, would I will be employed fast after? Is it true the MP earns more than BME? or it's all bogus? Sure a better pay would help me to pursuit an expensive study. I just need so many advices to put my feet on a solid ground so I can achieve. I guess by know you glimpsed, what I need and what I feel. Any further advice and million thanks to every one

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#30162 - 26/04/08 09:13 AM Re: confussed to select a course! [Re: Eddie goudowski]
Eddie Offline
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Registered: 21/02/02
Posts: 737
Loc: Jeddah
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Although, medical/biomedical engineering is quite interesting field, but the engineers with all due respect are treated like humble technicians every where in the world (which is awkward).


Hi Eddie, funnily enough that is not strictly true, The Middle East, for instance, pegs Engineers with the same status as doctors!
In fact I am referred to by the locals here as 'Engineer'. [applause]. I also hear this is true for many European countries, especially Germany (but its only hearsay)?

Eddie? Have you considered “Medical Equipment Manufactures”. GE/Philips/Siemens, Drager, etc. you may find your electronics experience will be most welcome mate!

Ed

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