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#30424 - 02/05/08 06:16 PM Re: Travel time. [Re: Eddie]
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PPS Topper you are being ripped mate!

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Edited by Eddie (02/05/08 06:37 PM)
Edit Reason: like my job
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#30427 - 02/05/08 07:29 PM Re: Travel time. [Re: Eddie]
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Registered: 21/06/07
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Loc: England
This is an old chestnut and in previous employment I found most employers will not pay overtime, time and a half rate for travel time, but either pay single rate pay or most often offer time off in lieu.

What if you were involved in an accident when travelling to the course that caused you some injury? If you are travelling to your headquarters from home then this could not be registered as an industrial injury since you were not being employed at the time, however if an employer requires that you travel to a training course not at your headquarters then you are travelling for the company and within their employment and any unfortunate accident could be registered as an industrial injury.

This would not generally apply if for instance your employer granted you day release to undertake academic study at a college, the working day time may be granted to you but the travel time would be in your own time since this is a concession your employer is granting you. However do not let them get away without paying you to attend a course for the company, although any training may benefit you as an individual, attending any vocational training requested by your employer is training in works time including the travelling time.

Barney


Edited by Barney (02/05/08 07:30 PM)
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#30475 - 06/05/08 10:20 AM Re: Travel time. [Re: Barney]
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Registered: 30/08/01
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Simple solution.
Dont do the courses, put kit on contract.
Dont give any advice on the kit what so ever, so the OEM have to be called in all the time.
REMEMBER IF YOU HAVENT DONE THE TRAINING YOU CANT WORK ON THE KIT.
Audit the OEM activity stringently, then report back to Senior Management what can be saved by sending techs on course including fees paid.

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#30476 - 06/05/08 10:27 AM Re: Travel time. [Re: KM]
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Registered: 12/02/04
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Yes Karl, why not "fight back", as it were? As I've said before, perhaps us "good old biomeds" are (and always have been) a bit too compliant for our own good!

Maybe we need to start our own focus (pressure?) group. How about it (brothers and sisters)? What about "Biomeds Against Baboon Speak" (BABS)? \:\)


 Originally Posted By: Geoff Hannis
How do the doctors (and, for that matter, the managers) get treated when they are required to travel (in similar circumstances, and for similar reasons)?


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#30477 - 06/05/08 10:31 AM Re: Travel time. [Re: KM]
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Registered: 12/09/03
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I should clarify, it is only TOIL i was seeking.
Here's a dilema, if i set off to attend a 2 hour seminar/course at say 9:00AM, and returned home at 5:00PM, would i owe the Trust 5 hours because the course was only 2 hours?

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#30478 - 06/05/08 12:21 PM Re: Travel time. [Re: Topper]
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Registered: 30/08/01
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I think you maybe looking to deep.
If you are going to said course look at it like a job.
Your employer wants you to do the job (course) therefore you need the tools (travel to / from the course) to do the job.
If you dont have the tools you cant do the job.

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#30487 - 06/05/08 01:48 PM Re: Travel time. [Re: KM]
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Registered: 21/12/04
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Loc: The Brecon Beacons
And on the other hand, if your employer is flexible in their attitude to you and supportive of any needs which you have from time to time then all is well that ends well.
Each case on merit I would say.

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#30493 - 06/05/08 02:06 PM Re: Travel time. [Re: Ivor D.]
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Acting in good faith is all very well ... just as long as both (all) parties have a similar understanding as to what the phrase actually means! \:\)
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#30496 - 06/05/08 02:31 PM Re: Travel time. [Re: Geoff Hannis]
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Registered: 19/09/06
Posts: 62
Loc: Germany
Two hours Travelling Time would be good in my job, however sometimes we have to go to the Falklands - try 24 hours on a Tristar when the Video screen has been removed to save a few pounds on the weight of the plane and might save 40 to 50 pence on the cost of fuel to get there.

DW - Baa Humbug!

PS I have a guy here that has been 10 times.

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#30497 - 06/05/08 02:38 PM Re: Travel time. [Re: Darth Welder]
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It was VC-10's out to the Far East in my day. No video's then. And the high-light of the trip was dropping down into Gan in a tropical down-pour! Come to think of it, dropping down into Kai Tak was fun, too (whichever way the wind was blowing)! Now, those were the days. \:\)
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