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#12882 30/09/02 10:58 AM
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John, I Louis Lyniswern III, son of Louis Lyniswern II, and Grandson of the great Louis Lyniswern, will start the ball rolling.

cool ITU/ICU Ventilators
cool ITU/ICU Full Patient Monitors
cool Anesthetic Workstations
cool Syringe Drivers
cool Emergency Defibs

for all other's who want to predetermine manufacturers/Other Equipment etc. then why not set up an e-mail account for this poll in order to compile the polling form. This is going to be difficult to achieve, and requires input from us all.
Could we not start by including the The NHS Purchasing and Supply Agency

AS THEY SAY:- The NHS Purchasing and Supply Agency is responsible for ensuring that the NHS makes the most effective use of its resources by getting the best value for money possible when purchasing goods and services.

Their ultimate target is to release money that could be better spent on patient care by achieving purchasing savings and improving supply performance across the NHS

Is it not, my friends, in their interest to assist us in our poll, surely, my friends, the overall gain of this poll is ultimately for their benefit.

Regards to you all, fine people

Louis

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#12883 30/09/02 12:09 PM
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Would the "chart" really just be for "up-to-date" equipment.
What I'm saying is, is seems a bit long winded to enter details/categories and evaluations for a piece of equipment you may have but is no longer supplied or readily available.

You could go into great length and extol the virtues of say eg. a Graseby MS2000 but in reality are there going to be many people who are still going to go out and purchase them.

For equipment being "marketed actively" by the O.E.M's I think it's a great idea, and as John said as long as it's done fairly, can only be of use to Biomeds wether they are involved in purchasing or not.

It may also make companies "take notice" that information they provide, or don't as the EBME web page has shown, is accurate, honest and consistent.

Honest appraisals are required, and yes sometimes that will mean "warts and all", and I'm sure some companies will not be happy. At the end of the day tho' if the outcome is better all round service, better cost effectiveness and even handed consistent approach to sales/service then I think most "ethical" companies who supply biomedical equipment have nothing to fear.

Gategories I think should be included are
Reliability
Manufacturer's support
Spare part availability
Quality of technical support

I'm sure there are lots, we will all have some ideas for inclusion.

The JD Powers survey of motor manufacturers seems to have given that industry a kick up the backside and been benefitial to the car purchaser, there is no reason why a similar survey for Medical Equipment manufacturers can't have a similar effect here wink


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#12884 30/09/02 2:36 PM
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Louis,
nice to have you back on the forum. have you changed your name from Terry? How is the gang or is it still three of you in that shed? good old days????

alex

#12885 30/09/02 2:37 PM
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Terry, is that you under name of Louis?

is it still 3 of you in that shed?
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Ah Alex my fellow "Sherlock" you are barking up the wrong tree my fellow functional, who is this Terry and what shed does he occupy, please have your AGSS checked out my friend.

Dave my Ex-Scouse Friend, how is it in sunny Southport these days? Regarding your question, my eminent friend, do you not think we should only include new equipment in our poll, why review something that is old and obsolete.

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#12887 30/09/02 4:18 PM
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Still sunny, Louis wink wink

I was getting at just reviewing new equipment.
My feeling was people would review things they have frown had for a while.

After all we know that us good biomeds keep equipment going long past there "retirement" date.
I just wanted to avoid the scenario.

Maybe a pre-requisite for the survey could be a list of equipment we all have which we consider "up-to-date" stuff. rolleyes

This would do a couple of things, firstly identify categories for equipment and secondly, give pointers to people as to what range of equipment is available in that category.

Maybe we could all start by posting " What equipment we've purchased in the last 2 years"
We don't have to stop at Med Equip but could also include Test Equip laugh

Maybe it's an idea for another posting area Huw?


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#12888 01/10/02 12:15 PM
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I agree it's a good idea and that it will require to be done very carefully. I suggest some advice from Which on how they manage their members car-users feedback surveys would be worthwhile.

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What an excellent idea Louis.
Huw what about polling the users, as most users give their real space address a more realist view would appear, you already post out the news letter.
The list equipment could be prohibative, what about a category or two a month?

Mark smile

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I am happy to design a form but we need to know what to put on it:
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As Louis said: We need to look at devices such as,

ITU/ICU Ventilators
ITU/ICU Full Patient Monitors
Anesthetic Workstations
Syringe Drivers
Emergency Defibs
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I will start the ball rolling on categories with:
ease of use
ease of maintenance
Confidence in supplier
Length of warranty
Consumables price (cheap/ave/expensive)

your turn. laugh eek

I also agree that this should only be for current equipment still readily available.


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We need to consider ; -

Willingness of supplier to provide adequate technical information.

Willingness of supplier to provide technical training.

Quality of technical training.

Quality and quantity of user training provided by supplier.

Reliability.

Response to warranty breakdowns.

Response to out of warranty breakdowns.

Perhaps if everyone scored the points on a 1 to 5 basis (5 = excellent; 1 = appalling) then a total score could be shown and the higher the score, the better the equipment / supplier. It probably is too complicated to start adding weightings to different criteria - although you could score the mosre important points out of 10 so that a really good score would bump up the total !

so many questions - so little time


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