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The main focus of interest must be the "arrangements" for staff currently employed who do not meet the voluntary register requirements and will not meet the statutory requirements of registration.

It would be totally wrong to force perfectly competent technicians who are in their 50's to spend several years studying for a degree which many of them would just aquire in time for their retirement ! Is the Dept. of Health going to give them early retirement once the 3 year transition period has expired ?

Why isn't it acceptable for someone to be happy in their job ? Why is there always pressure applied to try and force them to "develop" ? If a technician want's to work out his time servicing Oxygen therapy equipment, suction machines and nebulisers, then why do we have to force him to learn about ultrasound, X-Ray, surgical diathermy etc etc etc ? mad


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May I thank Graham Driver for posting the VRCT update - I had planned to do so later this week. May I also ask people to read the information very carefully, especially where it points out:-

"It should be stressed, that those already on the voluntary register or, currently aspiring to join, do not require to possess a degree in Clinical Technology in order to be regulated. However, by 2008/2009 all new entrants to the HPC statutory register will require to hold a degree in Clinical Technology."

This means that if you are currently working in the profession you do not need a clinical technology degree either now or in the future! Thus if you have gained entry to the Register with an ONC, C&G, HNC or any other similar qualification that is acceptable now and for the foreseeable future.

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It sounds like you are certain that members to the VRCT will be transfered en-block ?

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That comes from establishing a voluntary register - all on the register are automatically transferred to the statutory register!

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2 points ;-

Surely it cannot be guaranteed that everyone on a voluntary register will be transferred ? There must be some check that the entry requirements are sufficient, otherwise we could set up a voluntary register which was open to anyone who could demonstrate an ability in knitting, cross-stitching or paperfolding confused

There is still the problem of how to deal with the existing, long serving technicians who have absolutely no formal qualifications at all - not even "O" levels - so cannot apply for the voluntary register.

Alex has a relevant point about Trusts moving towards external service providers. In the future, when the existing technical staff have retired (which according to the survey done a few years ago won't be that many years away for the majority of staff) and we can't recruit enough people into the profession because there aren't enough people with the specialised degree, there won't be any option but to contract the service out !

I think it's called "shooting yourself in the foot".


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Surley even external service agents will have to be compendent otherwise isn't the whole thing a farce.
and no I don't think manufacturer training is good enough for site repairs.

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I thought the idea of EBME department was cut down the number service agent used. Hopefully this would them bring the running cost down.

Dose this mean in 2008; the entry level for all technicians will be band 6. This is not a fair system and will not help the shortfall clinical technologist.

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I've been following the debate over professional registration for some time and have mixed views. Encorage professional registration but do we really need compulsory state registration? It could be a good thing in the very long term, but there seem to be some key issues still to resolve:

Exactly what activities will require state registration? For example would an in-house tech servicing an anaesthetic machine need to be registered? Somewhere there must be crystal clear definition of who needs to be registered to do what. Which brings me to the second question.

What about the private sector and manufacturers design, sales and service staff?
- If the answer to my first question is 'yes' then surely a visiting service engineer would also need to be registered. - and if not the exercise is pointless as Clinical Technologists would only exist as a group within the NHS and not really be a profession.
I'm sure there will be lively debate over the next year or so but I guess it's about time I joined the 'volutary?' register.
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As i implied earlier people on the VRCT may not be accepted en-block.
I did not dwell on this as it was talked about else where in the forum.

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Why join the Voluntary Register of Clinical Technologists now?
The experience of other professions recently registered, and now under the regulatory regime of the HPC, indicates that some form of grandparenting arrangements will be introduced to facilitate the initial establishment of the legal register. Professions that had voluntary registers of good standing have been able to have their registrants transferred to the new register as one group. It is hoped that similar principles will apply to those who join the VRCT before a date yet to be specified when a new HPC register is formed that will include Clinical Technologists.
Ref. http://www.ipem.ac.uk/ipem_public/default.asp?id=456

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