Home Articles Downloads Forum Products Services Seminar Contact
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate Thread
Page 7 of 7 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
Re: HPC Agrees to Regulate Clinical Technologists
#20696 16/12/04 12:41 PM
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 28
Dreamer
Offline
Dreamer
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 28
i have to agree with everything roy has said,i see no need for registration on the terms at present, and i dont buy the pay and conditions argument either,agenda for change sorts out pay etc. going down this path could see us become uncompetative.

Re: HPC Agrees to Regulate Clinical Technologists
#20697 16/12/04 1:14 PM
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 2,020
Hero
Offline
Hero
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 2,020
This then leads us on to the question of who regulates the quality of work and technicians from oputside compnies.
If this register is for patient safety reasons, should the service techs from companies not have to be registered as well so the bad ones can be removed?
This will then level the playing field.
Will wholely outsourced departments have to have registered techs the same as NHS ones?
I have asked these questions before and there does not seem to be an answer. Does this mean no-one has thought about this, it has been ignored or there has been a slip-up in the planning of the register? Or have the companies thrown their weight around as they realise this may be a costly exercise for them?
I would worry if a tech was struck off the register, could only get employment through a company and then came back in the hospital to service kit.
Robert
Robert


My spelling is not bad. I am typing this on a Medigenic keyboard and I blame that for all my typos.
Re: HPC Agrees to Regulate Clinical Technologists
#20698 16/12/04 3:20 PM
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 136
Expert
Offline
Expert
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 136
I am under the impression that once we are registered as a profession, if it is a requirement to be registered in order to carry out the job function, then this will apply across the board.

As with other professions, it should not make any difference who you work for, you still need to be registered in order to practice.

Re: HPC Agrees to Regulate Clinical Technologists
#20699 16/12/04 9:10 PM
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 14,101
Likes: 1
Super Hero
Offline
Super Hero
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 14,101
Likes: 1
There has been so much debate on this issue that perhaps I have missed the answers to these questions:- 1) Who is going to “police” this system? 2) Who is going to “allow” private firms to service equipment, and how are such businesses to be “evaluated and monitored”? 3) Are we going to see individuals and firms “struck-off” the register? And what sort of "offence" would justify such an action, and 4) How would offenders be able to gain re-instatement?

Probably enough to be going on with for now, methinks. smile


If you don't inspect ... don't expect.
Re: HPC Agrees to Regulate Clinical Technologists
#20700 18/12/04 2:29 PM
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 142
Expert
Offline
Expert
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 142
On point 2
As I said before I feel all service techs whether they work privately or for the NHS or for multi Nationals such as GE should all be on the official register. This causes problems if the multinational company techs haven’t got the relevant certs. And are allowed to dictate terms e.g.. “Only we can repair this equipment” the government should lay down guidelines.
Trusts should have Equal rights to circuit diagrams and parts etc. and if not the company should be removed from the master indemnity register.
That way all of our techs in hospitals will have the level playing field needed to get better conditions and pay with out fear of being under cut financially.
All the large companies will be able to get some one struck off if his work is not up to standard and that does away with most of their case for not supplying.
But who enforces as Geoff says in point 1 and 3.

I have got to admit although I tend to sit on the fence a lot and put constructive criticisms in for both sides, I strongly feel for patient sake we should all be accountable individually but competent techs shouldn’t be hindered by bureaucracy techs should be registered by the “ prove it” method. Not by bits of paper. I know some techs that are very intimidated by formal written tests etc., but are among some of the best techs you’ll ever see.

Re: HPC Agrees to Regulate Clinical Technologists
#20701 19/12/04 9:52 AM
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 14,101
Likes: 1
Super Hero
Offline
Super Hero
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 14,101
Likes: 1
Sorry guys, but am I missing something here? Isn’t everybody accountable (for his or her actions) always and anyway (or have things changed more than even I could imagine during my absence from our Sceptred Isle)? wink

And, by the way, what are all those managers doing, if not taking responsibility for their people? Surely even the mighty NHS must have a way of “letting-go” incompetent technicians (and, for that matter, incompetent managers)?

And do all these “service companies” habitually employ a load of idiots, then? I was always under the impression (misguided, obviously) that factory-trained service engineers were the “bright boys”, and us first-line types the (how should I put it?) “others”.

But you’ve made an old man very happy, Mr. Leonius, but advocating registration by the “prove it” method. Sounds like a call to “technician values” to me. So perhaps I haven’t been wrong all these years after all! smile


If you don't inspect ... don't expect.
Re: HPC Agrees to Regulate Clinical Technologists
#20702 20/12/04 9:33 AM
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 213
Master
Offline
Master
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 213
I thought the NHS did not get rid of anybody.

You promote them out the way and then get some else to do the job.

A.M
eek


Barry

Be not afraid of greatness; some are born great, some achieve greatness, and others have greatness thrust upon them
Re: HPC Agrees to Regulate Clinical Technologists
#20703 22/12/04 11:32 AM
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 142
Expert
Offline
Expert
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 142
I was once told by a wise man “everyone is promoted to his or her level; of incompetence”
Another words if your good at your job you will promoted onward and upward until you are piss poor at your job
This obviously doesn’t apply to Tech’s as good techs are held back because they are to honest and call a spade a spade, incompetent bosses can’t take criticism.

Page 7 of 7 1 2 3 4 5 6 7

Moderated by  DaveC in Oz, RoJo 

Link Copied to Clipboard
Who's Online Now
2 members (Huw, Johnj), 545 guests, and 34 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Newest Members
mudvaynec, Stu, Kacper, Project, Barrow
9634 Registered Users
Forum Statistics
Forums25
Topics10,540
Posts71,493
Members9,633
Most Online5,980
Jan 29th, 2020
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.4