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Surely to the paranoid everyones a threat Geoff! I also thought that good experienced medical engineers are hard to find! A braindrain so to speak! Like a few here I often 'test the waters' and always seem to get a bite! PS whats in the lord Harry's name is a CRB?
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I only speak as I find, Buddy. Good techs may well be (and, I would say, are) hard to find, but that doesn't seem to sway the HR Baboons from placing every obstacle in the path of prospective employees. As it's now illegal to turn down a guy on age grounds, people of my vintage often get asked along just to "make up the numbers" (or meet the rules, or whatever). They obviously have (had) no intention of hiring disagreeable old dinosaurs (can't imagine why. Ha, ha). I speak from sorry experience, Mate. But if you don't know (yet) what a CRB check is, then I guess you've been "out of it" for a while. Best stay that way, believe me. 
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Ah a criminal record check! Our employer (As you probably know) demands an official stamped letter from your local police station! and a contact name! I had to get one of these and ended up settling a speeding fine (90 MPH on my Suzuki bandit 1200). Lucky no points and the desk Sergeant ended up buying my bike (funny old world)! I wonder if 'Inter-Plod' have a similar system? Good thing about working in Saudi is that you know outright your staff are clean! They are also very strict on bloods etc!
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Yes, I much prefer the Saudi system. Whenever there's an "incident", everyone goes to jail! On the grounds that if you weren't where you were when whatever it was happened (a road traffic "accident", usually), then it wouldn't have happened, so you must be (at least partially) to blame! Sounds logical where I'm sitting now, but not very pleasant when it actually happens "out there", of course. 
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Oh yes, so so true! One of our staff was attacked by a 6ft.4" African complete with the beard; in her apartment, the solution? The police rounded up all 5ft and less Sri-lankans for deportation, it was horrific! Ed PS Lucky Colin! 
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As it's now illegal to turn down a guy on age grounds, Whats the norm on this? I mean if you can get say 15 good years expertise from an oak as apposed to watching a sprog bud and grow! I would happily take on the old oak! I have only ever had two interviews (Since graduation) One was in Liverpool and was very professionally done! The other was here! Me? I have just passed the halfway mark!  Ed
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Details such as age (date of birth) are now removed from application forms when seen by the interviewers. However, this is nonesense as it is relatively easy to work out someone's age by looking at their CV and the years that they started their education etc. Despite the best will in the world, interviewers will make up their minds in the first 30 seconds based on the way the person being interviewed is dressed, their manner and their age!! Human psychology overides all other factors!!
Sometimes You Can't Make It On Your Own.
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Human psychology overides all other factors!! Yes, and this is despite the "best efforts" made in Social Engineering witnessed over the last ten years or so in Big Brother Britain! I sincerely hope that I'll live to see a return to a general application of common sense during my lifetime (but, entrenched as this BS has now become, with a whole generation of Baboons indoctrinated by it, somehow I doubt it). 
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Meanwhile, how about this job ad spotted recently on the CEN website (and reproduced here by kind permission of Darren and Stan):- "Medical Engineer required to fill important role in a leading hospital. Applicants need C.Eng minimum qualifications and at least two weeks work placement experience in a healthcare environment, some of which time must have been spent awake. The candidate must be willing to join a plethora of voluntary organisations at the drop of a hat. No experience of the actual work involved is required, as on the job training to avoid working at all costs will be delivered by your colleagues.
The successful candidate must be able to work with management to foster an environment which ignores the needs of both clinical and engineering support staff at every opportunity. You will need to enjoy walking as much of your time will be spent portering medical equipment around huge buildings. You should also enjoy packaging, as you will find that (thanks to procurement policy) much medical equipment at this hospital will need to be boxed up and sent to facilities in Ireland. This will be for for a repair that lasts 5 nano-seconds, because the Trust ended up buying an inordinate amount of the cheapest pile of junk ever produced, with no tech support available in England." 
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Too funny!  Eddie
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