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Re: Band 8a/b/c JAQ Neil Porter #38524 27/05/09 1:11 PM
Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 14,757 Likes: 70 the path less trodden Geoff Hannis Super Hero
Geoff Hannis Super Hero Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 14,757 Likes: 70 the path less trodden	Perhaps they should be known (more accurately) as "Administrators"? The Japanese used to use the term "salary men". The deal was that they droned on for years and years, on a comfortable enough salary, with a reasonable pension at the end of it. What's wrong with that? Nothing. The trouble is that not everyone is salaried. Like myself, for instance. Not much time for moaning about the minutae of AfC and which Pay Band I think I should be on (because I've served three weeks longer than the next guy) when I spend half my time worrying about where the next pound is coming from! If you don't inspect ... don't expect.

Re: Band 8a/b/c JAQ Geoff Hannis #38542 28/05/09 7:34 AM
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 85 Kent Paul Allum Adept
Paul Allum Adept Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 85 Kent	Originally Posted By: Geoff Hannis Perhaps they should be known (more accurately) as "Administrators"? The Japanese used to use the term "salary men". The deal was that they droned on for years and years, on a comfortable enough salary, with a reasonable pension at the end of it. What's wrong with that? Nothing. The trouble is that not everyone is salaried. Like myself, for instance. Not much time for moaning about the minutae of AfC and which Pay Band I think I should be on (because I've served three weeks longer than the next guy) when I spend half my time worrying about where the next pound is coming from! Precisely the point behind AFC its NOT about having more time served and ALL about having the skills and ability. In technical areas you don't tend to get managers who don't know the job, but in clinical/admin areas these type of unskilled managers(co-ordinators would be a better title) are not uncommon.

Re: Band 8a/b/c JAQ Paul Allum #38734 09/06/09 7:41 AM
Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 239 on the lookout Gazpacho OP Master
OP Gazpacho Master Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 239 on the lookout	I've done the JAQ now, based on an 8c job description and spec...lets see how they manage to get this out at a band 3!!! Dr Gazpacho Von Hovercraft is available for consultation

Re: Band 8a/b/c JAQ Gazpacho #38737 09/06/09 10:11 AM
Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 43 Walsall SUZUKI Technologist
SUZUKI Technologist Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 43 Walsall	Dr, Would you be able to email me a copy please? I may well be needing it. Suzuki

Re: Band 8a/b/c JAQ SUZUKI #38739 09/06/09 11:00 AM
Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 239 on the lookout Gazpacho OP Master
OP Gazpacho Master Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 239 on the lookout	Suzuki, PM for you Dr Gazpacho Von Hovercraft is available for consultation

Re: Band 8a/b/c JAQ Gazpacho #43068 14/12/09 5:05 PM
Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 239 on the lookout Gazpacho OP Master
OP Gazpacho Master Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 239 on the lookout	My JAQ has come back from marking by teacher, and should we say that it is better than I could have dreamed Dr Gazpacho Von Hovercraft is available for consultation

Re: Band 8a/b/c JAQ Gazpacho #43070 14/12/09 5:14 PM
Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 14,757 Likes: 70 the path less trodden Geoff Hannis Super Hero
Geoff Hannis Super Hero Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 14,757 Likes: 70 the path less trodden	Does that mean no more moaning, then? If you don't inspect ... don't expect.

Re: Band 8a/b/c JAQ Geoff Hannis #43072 14/12/09 5:20 PM
Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 239 on the lookout Gazpacho OP Master
OP Gazpacho Master Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 239 on the lookout	Victor Meldrew is still very alive and kicking and will be after being made redundant as they cannot afford to pay me Dr Gazpacho Von Hovercraft is available for consultation

Re: Band 8a/b/c JAQ Gazpacho #43075 14/12/09 5:30 PM
Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 14,757 Likes: 70 the path less trodden Geoff Hannis Super Hero
Geoff Hannis Super Hero Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 14,757 Likes: 70 the path less trodden	"I don't believe it!" If you don't inspect ... don't expect.

Re: Band 8a/b/c JAQ Geoff Hannis #43077 14/12/09 5:33 PM
Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 239 on the lookout Gazpacho OP Master
OP Gazpacho Master Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 239 on the lookout	that's exactly what I said when I saw the banding Dr Gazpacho Von Hovercraft is available for consultation

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