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Cyberdog #39146 25/06/09 5:17 PM
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Originally Posted By: Cyberdog

I believe my point has been emphasised by the Liecester job that has been posted today. Minimum 3 years experience? Should be a Band 6 surely?


The Leicester job description should equate to at MOST a band 4 it is actually quite well written but the person spec still uses "3 years experience" without qualifying it and the basic education requirement is a B-tec - good enough for background theory but just about worthless on it's own for AFC matching purposes.
"3 years experience" is meaningless unless you expand on what the person is supposed to have learnt in that time, and I'm sure we all know people that can pick up skills in a fraction of the normal time, (as well as those that couldn't learn if they had 1 to 1 training till they retired), which is why age discrimination legislation frowns on using this type of time serving requirement in job descriptions.

I am surprised that JD made it through job matching panels; although it does have "revised" in the title so it's possible management have made some daft changes and not submitted the revised JD for rematching

PS B-tec equates to level 3 in the knowledge and skills AFC factor [Although a matching panel would be generous and say the skills required raise the B-tec up the scale by a point.]and there is a rule of thumb that the knowledge and skills factor will equal the band level of the post (plus or minus one level at most)

Apologies for all the bracket use but that's how I think smile

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Geoff Hannis #39147 25/06/09 7:50 PM
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we're paying between 21 to 27 k a year for people to collect and deliver medical equipment around a hospital, boggle

Where, where? tell me cos hell they are better paid than us lot, and we also deliver medical equipment training as well managing a busy medical equipment library, its team and all joys therein! shocked

Wonder if there are any posts in New Zealand?! cool

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Geoff Hannis #39148 25/06/09 10:15 PM
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Band 57 isn't that Hienz? Band 31 Baskin Robbins!


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JoLee #39150 25/06/09 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted By: Topper
Bandings here are as follows:- Medical Equipment Library (MEL) 2x staff on B5.


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Paul Allum #39151 25/06/09 11:23 PM
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I have not seen the job in Leicester advertised personally, but who is recruiting?
Is it the NHS or is it Asteral. They provide MES so could be why it is quite well written...


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Geoff Hannis #39152 26/06/09 1:48 AM
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Originally Posted By: Geoff Hannis

Have you any experience of the attitudes that prevail in Modern Britain, Roger?

No? Ah, I thought not. frown

Not really.

The topic here is re-banding and it refers to getting a senior job grade as well. Though it may be seniority in position but it does not solve the problem at hand of having to double up to do more. The grumbling will never stopped. Likewise, more work at hand will still exist.

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This thread was opened by a nurse on Band 5 who manages an Equipment Library. At the link provided by Cyberdog, we find that (the elastic) Band 5 stretches from 20,710 to 26,839. Such are the facts.

Personally, I would be content with half of the median* of that spread. frown

* Median : those without a university degree may need to look that up!


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Geoff Hannis #39169 26/06/09 12:19 PM
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Can't get a band 5 with a university degree, you would have to hide that in order to apply


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Neil Porter #39196 26/06/09 5:35 PM
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Is the job market there rather bad now?


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From the ads posted on this site it seems that there are job openings, depends what you want from a job, Geoff likes the dark side, me I like the sunshine and no banding (although out here it is all responsibility and no authority)


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