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What about a more radical model (just off the top of my head after reading these recent posts):-

1) A third-party company sets up a Library in a nice location in the hospital (near to the customers, and all the rest).

2) They purchase equipment usually found in a Library (pumps etc.) off the wards at true market value (that is, not much ... for those who don't know what that is - visit the Hilditch auctions to gain an insight).

3) Extra (new, and in sufficient quantity) equipment is purchased as need be. Remember that the Library owns the equipment, literally.

4) The Library is stocked ... then equipment is hired out, as suggested above (just like you do with tool hire).

5) Part of the deal is that biomed services the kit at set intervals, and they get paid for this. They also get paid for carrying out repairs to Library equipment on a priority basis.

How does that sound? smile

If the customers want (demand) more ... like deliveries, collections or even a 24x7 service - no problem. They just get charged at Premium Rates!


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Mike - The same here, we have been able to purchase more pumps for the Trust.

The Trust's that I spoke to before we started our Library said they have managed to reduce infusion pumps by 20% whilst we have had to double what we had.

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One of the good things about the introduction of Equipment Libraries in our hospitals is surely that it brings out proper equipment management out into the open, as it were.

That is, it does away with one or more wards hoarding equipment whilst the one next door is struggling.

It also becomes immediately obvious when their isn't enough kit available to meet demand. Frankly, I doubt that any Trust has been able to reduce the amount of infusion pumps available to circulate. If I'm wrong ... let's be hearing from you!

Another of the nice benefits is that, as control of the kit is being managed centrally, and subject to regular date checks and all the rest, routine servicing cannot be easily overlooked! smile


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All of this banter cracks me up. Whose money paid for the equipment? Whose money pays for the maintenance? Whose money pays for the Library?
Essentially at the end of the day, all of the money is coming from the same pot and arguments about who bought what and when are irrelevant.


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Yes, the kit is all being paid for by the tax-payer. And that's why we want to see it utilised (not to mention maintained) in the most efficient, beneficial, manner possible.

That is, not hidden away in a cupboard in the domain of some over-powering nursing sister or other! frown


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Originally Posted By: Geoff Hannis

Yes, the kit is all being paid for by the tax-payer. And that's why we want to see it utilised (not to mention maintained) in the most efficient, beneficial, manner possible.

That is, not hidden away in a cupboard in the domain of some over-powering nursing sister or other! frown


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Thank you, Skippy. I think you have already made it clear that I am assured of your vote. smile


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I am having trouble believing what i am reading
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Essentially at the end of the day, all of the money is coming from the same pot and arguments about who bought what and when are irrelevant.


Not in our Trust they are not!

An example from the past - we could save a small fortune in the long term switching from Tec 3s to Tec 5 vaporisers. The savings on servicing the units every 3 years instead of annually would pay for the new units and reduce service costs. But the Med Eng Dept can only pay for servicing purchasing the new units would need to come from another budget surprise surprise it took years.

I can believe there are sensible people in every Trust, what I do not believe is that every budget holder is sensible. And as the bean counters are the real power in the NHS arguments about money will always be relevant.


Lee

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Where does your "budget" come from? Is it part of a divisional budget? Is the divisional budget part of a directorate budget? Is the directorate budget part of the hospital budget? Is the hospital budget part of the PCT budget? Where would you like me to stop????
The "internal market" is a nonesense when departments start arguing about whose budget belongs to who and "look at what savings we've made".
There is a finite amount of money available at National, Regional, Hospital, Department level and it is all a matter of not how much you have and how much you spend, but how much Value for Money and Efficiencies you are able to demonstrate with your "budget".


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Dare I mention again ... the ZBD? smile


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