Home Articles Downloads Forum Products Services Seminar Contact
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate Thread
Nitric oxide therapy pricing #48884 08/09/10 1:01 PM
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 145
Moira Offline OP
Expert
OP Offline
Expert
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 145
Good afternoon, good people.

This query is addressed to fellow sufferers who deal with Inotherapeutics. Since this company started charging for small transport NO cylinders instead of supplying them free, we've been getting random invoices which we can't verify, as they deliver to a main gas store a long way from the users. And different departments, on different budgets, use these cylinders, so without a crystal ball we can't say who should be paying for what on delivery. We want to pay for them after use, as we do with full size cylinders, but they're not co-operative.

Is this a problem for anyone else out there? I'd like to know if this is a regional policy or happening nationally. And what others are doing about it.

Thanks!

Moira

Re: Nitric oxide therapy pricing [Re: Moira] #48914 09/09/10 8:54 AM
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 260
Topper Offline
Master
Offline
Master
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 260
Hi Moira
We deal with Ino within our NNU and Cardiac CCU. As a highly specialist treatment usually only utilized in a critical care area, what are these small cylinders for and who is using them? Are they used in conjunction with the Inovent? If not how is toxic NO2 monitored?
Are you sure they are NO?
Tony

Re: Nitric oxide therapy pricing [Re: Moira] #48920 09/09/10 10:13 AM
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 797
KM Offline
Philosopher
Offline
Philosopher
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 797
Surely all thats needed is a booking in / out system from the hospital main gas store.
Whos delivered it when and where.
Whos taken it when and where.
Seems to work here.

Re: Nitric oxide therapy pricing [Re: Moira] #48941 10/09/10 8:42 AM
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 46
NeoBiomed Offline
Technologist
Offline
Technologist
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 46
We have a similar problem at our trust, the cylinders are shared between our PICU and NICU.

If you speak with InoTherapeutics they will forward you a record sheet to complete for each patient, details included are cylinder numbers and commencement and finish times of treatment.

When we receive an invoice I locate this data and correlate a table of the cylinders used, total times and dispute any over-charges with the company, I hope this helps.

Re: Nitric oxide therapy pricing [Re: Moira] #48942 10/09/10 9:03 AM
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 260
Topper Offline
Master
Offline
Master
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 260
Don't forget the first 96 hours (4 days) treatment should be free of charge!!!
Topper

Re: Nitric oxide therapy pricing [Re: Topper] #48964 13/09/10 12:59 PM
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 145
Moira Offline OP
Expert
OP Offline
Expert
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 145
Thanks for your responses, everyone.

To answer the points you've raised; these small (2litre) cylinders are used for giving NO therapy during paediatric and neonate retrieval. Also on Children's ICU for hand-ventilation during physiotherapy. Yes, we use record sheets to avoid paying more than we have to for 10 litre cylinders. A booking system would be hard to operate because the cylinders have serial numbers, so we're invoiced for specific cylinders which have arrived in the stores but not been used by either unit/directorate.

And, Topper, I wish it were true that the first 96 hours were free - we'd save a fortune! It's after 96 hours they stop charging! By which time you owe them 3,480 + VAT which is quite enough in my opinion.

It looks like it's going to be a stand-off between us ICU/NNU techs, and the rep!

Cheers all,
Moira

Re: Nitric oxide therapy pricing [Re: Moira] #48971 14/09/10 8:57 AM
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 260
Topper Offline
Master
Offline
Master
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 260
Hi Moira

My mistake, its been a while since i was called out to administer INO. I stand corrected.
Topper

Re: Nitric oxide therapy pricing [Re: Topper] #48974 14/09/10 2:21 PM
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 145
Moira Offline OP
Expert
OP Offline
Expert
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 145
No problem Topper. Think yourself fortunate to have left it behind! The therapy is straightforward, but the paperwork is a nightmare!


Moderated by  DaveC in Oz, KM, RoJo 

Who's Online Now
2 registered members (Islam, ahmadba), 162 guests, and 37 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Newest Members
eldelcable, eng.maloudat, Vincenzo89, BTM, BigEric
9482 Registered Users
Events
Philips - National Conference
Forum Statistics
Forums25
Topics10,437
Posts70,739
Members9,482
Most Online1,391
Mar 26th, 2018
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.2