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Do any of you carry out routine electrical safety checks on this and similar products. If so which safety test do you use and are Vision Fitness products manufactured to IEC 60601. I am getting no help from the UK agent.

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I doubt that they are manufactured to 60601 ...but that shouldn't stop you from ensuring that they are electrically (and mechanically) safe if they are being used in a hospital setting. smile

Check out the manual (.pdf).


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Bigfoot,
You will probably find there is no hard cut case here.At this Trust if its used to treat / diagnose or carry out clinical therapy / intervention (bit of a mouthfull) its us "MED ENG" if its not its maintainance dept (Estates) who PAT it.
In grey areas the MED ENG manager & Maintenance manager have a fight to see who wont do it.
You will probably find that the answers depend on what support facilities are available in a trust and what policy dictates.
The only other one i've found is where there is a third party
SLA in place for PAT or the like, nut that tends to involve coughing up more money as you are adding to their SLA cover.
I note in the warranty statement it says its a "non commercial use" device which to us here usually insinuates its not as professional device and we probably wouldnt have bought it for medical use is another answer.
Good luck.


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If it's being used in Physio ... there are Dark Side companies (plus one at least who is a major supplier of physio kit) who will be happy to come and PM everything in the department at "very reasonable" rates (in one case that I came across - at less than the in-house NHS biomeds could do it for)! smile

@KM: "not a medical device"? Surely all "exercise" equipment used in Physio is like that? But (to my old-fashioned / traditional biomed mind), that shouldn't mean that it doesn't get looked at. In fact, I would argue that it makes it more relevant to the PM programme (or whatever you want to call it). Bottom line:- if it's used in a "patient" environment [tick], then it gets PM'd [tick] ... and if it's got a mains cable [tick] then it gets an electrical safety test [tick]. There you are, all the boxes ticked!

Lots of junk gets bought by the medics (with good intentions, presumably). That has been the traditional for as long as I can remember. But that doesn't mean that we should wash our hands of it. Rather the reverse, in fact:- the crappier the kit, the more maintenance is likely to be needed!


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Quote:
In grey areas the MED ENG manager & Maintenance manager have a fight to see who wont do it


Can't tell you how delighted I am to see the same battle going on elsewhere. "that's not biomed we cry"....... "yes it is" shout the maintenance dept.....

Same the world over it would seem grin


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Yes ... it's not unusual. But it's not a battle (after all, it's known as "demarcation"). But simply poor management! frown

That is, everyone concerned should be left in no doubt about who does what, where, and when (not to mention "how").

And (I suspect I don't really need to add) "in my book", the biomeds should want to take care of the safety of "off the wall" items (kit with plug-in power cables, medical gas probes etc.). whistle


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