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Hi all,
I'm looking for a couple of service manuals for the Draeger equipment listed below. If anyone has any of these, please email to me at dcunningham@chemtronics.com.au
Thanks, Dave
Kappa and Delta patient monitors
Sola/Stella lights
Movita pendants
Thoughts and information provided on this forum are mine and mine alone and do not necessarily reflect the policy of NSW Health. They may also be complete bollocks!!
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Dave have you tried vipmedinc.
If you think hiring professionals is expensive, try hiring amateurs!
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Thanks Neil, good collection but sadly, not the ones I was after. Still, they have been added to the collection  Anyone else out there have....... Kappa and Delta patient monitors Sola/Stella lights Movita pendants Thanks all, Dave
Thoughts and information provided on this forum are mine and mine alone and do not necessarily reflect the policy of NSW Health. They may also be complete bollocks!!
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Hi Dave, drager recently introduced a very strict policy regarding their products. Authorized service of Drager has all the documents in a secure electronic format on a their laptops. It is very good secured. The vast majority of the Drager service manuals posted on the Internet are not full (eg. lack of spare part numbers, control procedures, and many others). Drager is currently manufactured devices are only supported by firmware from a laptop - for example, through software called HIT. Devices of Drager do not have a service mode (ventilators Oxylog 3000, Carina etc. -PC only) or service access is blocked by a special key (Primus, Zeus, Apollo) - the application of service laptops. Drager prohibited also sharing of service manuals at http://www.frankshospitalworkshop.com. For these reasons I suggest to anyone NOT of their devices even though I think they are good or very good. The operating costs of these devices are the biggest in the world with among of other manufacturers.
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It's not clear (to me, at least) what you're saying at your last paragraph there, Piter. Are you saying:- "don't try to fix their kit, however capable you believe yourself to be" ... or "don't buy their kit in the first place"! Would you care to clarify that (whilst you are still within the time frame allowed for editing)? 
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Hi,
I have the Delta manual. Send me your e-mail address and I will attach a copy.
My e-mail address is steve.williams @cdha.nshealth.ca
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I said only that if I had to buy new devices and I had to choose Drager or Datex-Ohmeda I would choose to Datex-Ohmeda!
P.S. Original manuals from the autorized Drager service laptop are quite different in comparison with those of the downloaded from the internet.
According to me the only reasonable solution is to have such software service but unfortunately only authorized services of Drager has it.
Piter
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Super Hero
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Yes. Either that or have a friend at Dräger. 
If you don't inspect ... don't expect.
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There is no one to crack DRAGER Authorized service software。
I have been concerned about this phenomenon
Hope joint engineering and technical personnel, we hope to achieve fair
email：daisizhou@sina.com
daisizhou#sina.com (#=@)
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the truth is that you to do something to crack, but it must first be. Drager service software is very cleverly secured!
Piter
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