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Re: Register of Clinical Technologists [Re: Chris Watts] #74330 07/07/19 1:38 PM
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"Jumping" before they were "pushed", you mean?

Meanwhile, if an interview panel is swayed into hiring someone because of the brilliance of their RCT portfolio, and that person (now on the team) subsequently bins membership of the RCT - what happens then? Nothing, I suspect. Would the hiring organisation (Trust) even be made aware of this turn of events?

Meanwhile, maybe the runner-up at interview may have a grievance (but there again, he/she would probably not even know why the other candidate was hired in the first place). Just a (random) thought. But that's what I mean by (lack of) transparency. smile

Originally Posted by Chris Watts

Have you ever seen an RCT representative at a Trust deciding who gets promoted or not ...


Thankfully not ... but my remarks were in response to Steveddie's seemingly enthusiastic endorsement of what the RCT can "bring to the table".

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An interview panel would not see the candidates RCT portfolio but you'd expect some of what's included to also be in their application or CV.

The spec for a successful candidate would have essential and desirable characteristics of which being on the RCT would be one entry. You'd expect the successful candidate to meet all the essential characteristics and then some of the desirable one. If they asked for RCT registration and then gave the post to someone who didn't have it that candidate might have a grievance but it's probable that all candidates did not fully meet the spec. (you'd have to weigh manufactures training over RCT)

Interviews are gateways to a job so what you're a member of just depends at interview. If you're kicked off the register an HR department would treat any correspondence the same as a complaint of theft from WHSmiths involving an individual in work uniform to that of a report of racism from Hope not hate.

Re: Register of Clinical Technologists [Re: Chris Watts] #74333 07/07/19 4:01 PM
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Ah ... so they would just ignore it, then? think

Re: Register of Clinical Technologists [Re: Geoff Hannis] #74334 07/07/19 9:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Geoff Hannis

Ah ... so they would just ignore it, then? think

Ignore which? Interview panel would just see that someone managed to get on the register.

If you're talking about binning membership that an interesting question. As well as asking for RCT, medical electronics jobs get around AFC matching by saying you have a qualification and specialist manufacturer training which is equivalent to the next qualification. Now if someone doesn't go on another training course for the next number of years do they get pulled up for no longer matching the job spec? The criteria are only checked at interview, only a problem if they apply for another post.

Re: Register of Clinical Technologists [Re: Chris Watts] #74335 07/07/19 10:52 PM
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"Ignore which?" ... I was referring to the last paragraph of your post. whistle

As for the rest - maybe Douglas Bader got it about right when he said:- "Rules are for the obedience of fools, and the guidance of wise men".

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Depending on what was reported they'd come down on you like a ton of bricks, there's bring the Trust into disrepute, no disclosing criminal records and the favourite not living the Trust values. Not completing your CPD, on the other hand, some would probably tell them where to go.

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Does the Trust make it clear to everyone what the values to be "lived" actually are?

And ... if these values change (for instance, when a new CEO takes over, or a new "branding" make-over, or "mission statement", is imposed), do the faithful get the option to withdraw with honour? think

If I remember rightly, contracts - and I'm assuming that NHS staff are hired on some sort of contractual basis - can be breached (intentionally or otherwise) by either party; that is, it isn't (or shouldn't be allowed to be) a one-sided situation.

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It's usually a interview question, what are the Trust values?

It is like a mission statements. If the next door Trust actually merges with our it will loose it's "Pride" and start having to embrace change. Don't know if that a metaphor for the take over wink

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I can think of many metaphors that may apply ... but perhaps I had better leave it there. whistle

I believe that all over-sized public sector organisations end up existing for the benefit of their employees rather than for the public they are supposed to be serving. All organisations go like this in the end (and that's why they need breaking up into smaller units from time to time). I hear that NASA has gone the same way (so much so that they'll never get to Mars).

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