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Posted By: Topper Neonatal Tech Banding. - 26/02/16 9:23 AM
(I submitted this a couple of weeks back but site was problematic. I can't find my submission but apologies if duplicated)
Hi folks
Would like to get the consensus as to what banding a Neonatal Unit Clinical Technologist is / should be.
Specifically a dedicated Named Technician seconded full time to a Level 3 NNU with 14 NICU & HDU cots, 14 SCBU cots and as of recently a 14 Adult bed Transitional Care Ward.
No contracts exist, all maintenance is in-house with approx. 50 medium / high risk device servicing / PPMs scheduled per month. A 1 in 4 On Call service is provided covering primarily NNU, Children's Ward, Delivery Theatres and Maternity departments as required.
The NNU Tech is part of a 4 man team consisting also of 1x Women & Children's Tech and 2 x Theatres Techs, one of which is the "Section Head".
Any info, examples or opinions appreciated.
Thanks
Topper
Posted By: Topper Re: Neonatal Tech Banding. - 26/02/16 9:27 AM
PS. Also wholly responsible for the management / administration of INOtherapy, our primary reason for call outs.
Cheers
Topper.
Posted By: RoJo Re: Neonatal Tech Banding. - 26/02/16 11:50 AM
Topper,
I think the easiest thing to do is to fill in an AfC job evaluation form or just compare your responsibilities with some of the standardised medical technical ones.
Robert
Posted By: Topper Re: Neonatal Tech Banding. - 29/02/16 12:44 PM
Thanks RoJo
I realise this would ultimately be required but if favourable it would still have to be justified and funded. Since voluntarily accepting the job at Band 6, (side stepping from a role where i was a B6 ITU Tech under a Band 7), i have seen Techs promoted in post including to B7 when they only maintain what i call "bread & butter" equipment with no patient contact and no On call requirement. Also the precedent to be managing someone has recently been compromised with the promotion of a 6 to 7 purely because they couldnt fill the 6 post.
Therefore what would be really useful is to establish the consensus / what is the most prevealant grade for such a role to determine if i am in a minority.
I have been on equipment courses where fellow delegates express shock at me being a Band 6 for such a role.
my carreer thus far has been MTO3/ Band 6 Snr Critical Care Tech 2002-2011 (under a Band 7 Chief) and Band 6 Snr Neonatal Tech 2011 - present (alone). The examples of others above have less than half the time in service i have given.
Cheers
Topper
Posted By: Geoff Hannis Re: Neonatal Tech Banding. - 29/02/16 3:57 PM

Didn't you serve in the Armed Forces, Topper?

Maybe you have forgotten the old adage:- "never volunteer".

However, if you are really fed up with your lot, here's another idea:- look again at some of those who have been promoted (and - or - even some who you say have expressed "surprise"), and ask yourself what boxes they have ticked.

From what I have seen, "boxes ticked" seems to count more than technical competence, length of service, or what-have-you these days (and not just in the NHS)! frown
Posted By: Paul.Pichur Re: Neonatal Tech Banding. - 01/03/16 7:48 AM
Hi Topper

That description pretty much sounds like my current band 6 role. My unit has a couple more beds and around 600 pieces of kit, ranging from flow meters to various levels of ventilation equipment.
I was promoted to that post after 'proving myself at that level' for almost 12 months prior to my actual promotion. 5 years I've been at my Trust, started as an Assistant (B4) then promoted to a Scientist (B5) and now a Specialist (while doing the Medical Technologies FdSc/BSc) I also cover our CCU networked monitors/ 50 odd Anaesthetic monitors/ and many other bits of kit used around the Trust (infusion pumps, syringe pumps etc.)
My issue with my role is that although I have the full responsibilities of a Band 6 engineer. AFC only recognizes my years service and therefore I'm at the bottom of the banding, where as all other Specialists are top (some wont even attend a ventilator 'issue' when attached to a patient)
In my department and Band 7 is a Team Leader position and part of the management team.
Posted By: Topper Re: Neonatal Tech Banding. - 01/03/16 9:19 AM
Hi Paul
Your situation puts things into perspective, that being the grass isnt greener and does make me feel a little less frustrated however you have climbed a ladder to get where you are wheras i have been the same band / Grade since the day i entered what was a new industry to me 14 years ago this December.
Obviously my experience and skills have grown over that time especially within the first 3 years, and i have taken on responsibilities beyond my role at many times. I also consider myself an exceptional Technician who has his "house in order" after inheriting a mess, and i can determine via KPI's i am one of the more productive Technicians in some cases 5 fold!.
Geoff: Yes i was a RAF Eng Tech Avionics (13 years).
Regarding the boxes i dont tick, if there are any, they would certainly be nothing to do with merit, skill or responsibility.
Cheers.
Posted By: Geoff Hannis Re: Neonatal Tech Banding. - 01/03/16 1:11 PM

Well, Topper, it's good to hear that the mind-set you picked up during your Service kept you in good stead afterwards (as they generally do). smile

Per Ardua Ad Astra

I sometimes wonder what will become of tech services in the NHS once the (oft-visited) well of talent that the Armed Forces used to produce dries up completely (from the trickle it has now become). Perhaps they'll be hiring techs en masse from the Philippines - just as they do for nurses right now.
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