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Posted By: Lee S Me - 15/12/17 3:22 PM
I am changing jobs in the new year, moving away from Medical Engineering so i may not be visiting the site as often; so in the words of Douglas Adams "so long and thanks for all the fish".

Posted By: Huw Re: Me - 15/12/17 3:36 PM
All the very best Lee. Good luck in the new job. smile
Posted By: kit Re: Me - 15/12/17 3:36 PM
Can I be nosey and ask why you are leaving medical engineering and what you are moving to. To be honest I'm swithering on doing the same, all the best anyway whatever your plans are. Cheers
Posted By: Dustcap Re: Me - 15/12/17 3:52 PM
Best of luck Lee. Im thinking of doing the same, going to make a decision end of January.
Posted By: Geoff Hannis Re: Me - 17/12/17 12:36 PM

Hey ... what's going on? I'm wondering what it is you guys are moving (or thinking of moving) to?

Many years ago I had gone through a few "changes of plan" myself, and tried a couple of things along the way. To be honest a "change of scene" is probably a healthy (mind-broadening) thing to do.

However ... each time I eventually "came back". smile

To my mind it doesn't really matter what path you actually follow (in engineering), as long as you give it your best effort, be true to yourself, and such good stuff as that.

Speaking for myself, I had better make it clear that I haven't officially touched a piece of medical kit "in anger" for a number of years now. However I still spend a lot of time wading through murky waters of computer code to do with the tech support of medical equipment. As well as, of course, coming on here from time to time.

So I'm genuinely interested ... is the "grass greener" elsewhere? Or are you guys going through the "mid-life crisis" (and I've had a few myself)? Are you hoping to have a go at your "true vocation in life" (mine was being a motor-cycle mechanic)? Or are you just fed up with the NHS?
Posted By: Lee S Re: Me - 18/12/17 10:37 AM
I am going to be the Trust's Environmental and Information Manager (for the Estates side), so energy, sustainability and the various data gathering processes that the NHS is required to do.

I've been a Medical Engineer for most of the last 27 years (couple of years seconded to what was described as a project manager role but was more Facilities Management).

I must admit I have become increasingly frustrated with the increase in equipment numbers and hoops we need to jump through; with no corresponding increase in man power or budget. And although I've made many friends and being told that I am the best thing since sliced bread (especially now); it is still the same old UK, engineers are great when you need one but are still looked down upon as spanner men (or ladies).

As for midlife crisis been there done that; yes OK I’ve got some grey in my beard, I ‘ve got a convertible and I am going snowboarding in the new year but that doesn’t make me a bad person.

Posted By: kit Re: Me - 18/12/17 1:32 PM
Sounds like a good job Lee hope it goes well. Geoff, maybe I'm just getting a bit fed up working in the NHS, like Lee I'm not far away from 30 years service and maybe a change of direction would do me good away from tools and fixing things.

I still may have 10 years of work left and have no firm idea of what I could do next. Retire early and do bugger all apart from suit myself sounds very appealing, but that takes money of course!!!!
Posted By: Geoff Hannis Re: Me - 18/12/17 7:09 PM

OK, Kit ... here's my advice:- there's a whole world outside the NHS. Bin it, then take a year out (travel the world, volunteer in something that appeals, write your memoirs, whatever).

By the end of the year you'll have a few more ideas ... and who knows, after a year of refreshment, maybe you'll appreciate that being "on the tools" is a noble vocation after all!

And don't forget, there's always the "darkside"! smile

Just make sure you don't screw up any pension rights you have, though.
Posted By: kit Re: Me - 19/12/17 11:33 AM
Yes Geoff the older I get the more tempted I am to do something completely different, there sure is more to life than the NHS so I'll need to get thinking and take the plunge. Lifes too short as they say......
Posted By: Geoff Hannis Re: Me - 19/12/17 12:46 PM

... indeed it is. But I have found that a simple move (change of location) is often enough to revitalise and re-invent yourself. A fresh start, I suppose we could call it ... which reminds me; it's about time I moved on (having been in my present location for three years now) - next year, inshallah. smile
Posted By: Dustcap Re: Me - 19/12/17 12:55 PM
I have been working in hospitals for 22 years and have seen many things that have shaped the person i am today. The respect for our profession is not there and the banding reflects this. One trust can pay one banding, another trust can better it for the same level of competence. If a senior god somewhere on a board thinks we are worth it then your ok, if not then its disheartening. I am currently certified by a manufacturer to service a model of anesthetic machine in our trust, yet my manager does not think this is worthy of a pay rise. If a nurse was to further qualify in a subject then their wage would go up as they became more competent and because of their level of responsibility, but for someone who "PAT tests and replaces fuses" then no. It is a worthwhile job and enjoyable, but when you're not treated as a professional it becomes tedious.
Posted By: Geoff Hannis Re: Me - 19/12/17 1:19 PM

I thought that "Agenda for Change" was supposed to sort all that out ... you know, a common renumeration scheme across the NHS. whistle

I have heard the "we don't get the respect we deserve" comment my entire working life - including (in my case) "pre-biomed" (as a technician in other scenarios). It was ever thus, and probably always will be when working in a tech support role.

TBH, I've never let it bother me too much. I have always thought (probably somewhat naively) that quiet pride in your own abilities should suffice.

OK; time for the advice:- have you tried the private sector (or better still, going it alone)? think
Posted By: Dustcap Re: Me - 19/12/17 2:38 PM
The problem with the agenda for change is that it catered mainly for "clinical staff", our trade is barely in there. The other side of the coin is that a Foundation trust can pay you whatever it feels at the discretion of the board and chief exec.They can pay a support worker a band 8 should they feel that the support worker deserves it.
The private sector has its benefits i suppose, been there already but was made redundant so there are risks i suppose.
I am actually thinking about a whole new start altogether, different trade, away from hospitals altogether.
I am indeed proud to work for the NHS, sadly the NHS is not proud of me and my profession. Lack of good leadership i suppose.
Posted By: Geoff Hannis Re: Me - 19/12/17 2:53 PM

Just do it - strike out in a new direction. You'll be glad you did. smile

In my time I have come across blokes who dragged their butts into the same warehouse for 35 years before getting their clock; blokes who plodded on in a job that had lost its appeal many years before, just ticking off the days until the pension kicked in. And, of course, I have also worked with jerks who have wormed their way to "success" with all sorts of nefarious tactics.

But for me, it has always been about being true to oneself; and I recommend that same mind-set to everyone. In 1983 I wrote "know what you want from life, and if what you want is within your reach, take it and be content". I still reckon that's a good maxim.
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