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THE RIOTERS PRAYER........Our father, who art in prison, my mum knows not his name, thy Riots come, read it in the sun, in Birmingham, as it is in London, give us this day our Welfare bread & forgive us our looting, as we're happy to loot those who defend stuff against us, lead us not into employment but deliver us free housing, for thine is the teles, the Burberry & the Barcardi, forever and ever.

I like Geoff was interested in Dr David Starkey's views (he was always thought provoking when on the BBC's Moral Maize), his thoughts are in my view fully justified by observing our modern multi cultural lowlife culture, just listen to the way they speak nowadays innit!

Regarding the low slung baggy jeans, it was my understanding that this first started after the US prisoners had their belts removed from them after initial arrest and detention, they were observed walking around the exercise yards etc with their arses hanging out. What a noble fashion statement for our wonderful deprived youths to emulate!

Meanwhile, a very strange and unusual thing happened this morning:- I found myself in agreement with former Prime Minister Tony Blair!

In connection with the recent "riots" in England, he has been reported as saying:-


(sounds like he agrees with Dr. Starkey, then) And that:-


(and the early 21st century, presumably)

Setting aside for one moment who (or what) is to blame for that sad state of affairs (or indeed what he did about it whilst in office), I agree with what he seems to be saying, in that the present "tough love" approach of the courts is simply a knee-jerk reaction by a bewildered and out of touch administration. In the long term it will achieve nothing.

Anyway, let's see what the results of these OTT convictions are once the sentencing and appeals processes have been exhausted!

Here's another slant on it all:-

Britain is not in terminal decline at all, but simply (and as usual) at the cutting edge!

Britain was the first Industrialised Nation, and now we are the first Post-Industrialised Nation. Once again we are at the forefront of the evolution of society.

As it was so many times in the past, so it remains today:- we are breaking new ground. We have reached the stage where the individual is more powerful (empowered by technology, the Media, and yes ... Human Rights) than the community at large. This makes many of our present laws irrelevant. In many cases the Old Rules (and Values) no longer apply. In fact the whole democratic system may now be well passed its sell-by date*.

So the question now becomes:- "What comes next, after democracy"?

Watch this space!

*And that's why "it had to happen"!

Meanwhile, perhaps others who, like me, continue to struggle with coming to terms with what's going on around them (and why life no longer holds the promise that it once did, especially for the young), might be interested in this piece of clear writing.


Yeah ... tell me about it.