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#30449 - 05/05/08 07:51 AM Curious is AFC a step forward?
Mark.E Mark.E Master Registered: 21/03/01 Posts: 273 Loc: NW	As an EX NHS engineer who would like to return to the joys of the NHS, pension being the main reason. Can anyone explain to me why it is almost impossible to get more than the bottom of the payscale? Now from the various AFC 6's I have seen they ask for loads of years of experience and all the bells and whistle's etc etc.. Of which I have a full score sheet..But when it comes to the crunch, I am told.. ermm sorry mate we can only give you the bottom of the scale we are tied by AFC!!! Now call me stupid (and I have been many times.. thick skinned now!) but wasn't AFC supposed to be a way of recruiting and retaining people.. or have I missed the point.. or the reality of the situation? Just a thought as I while away my bank holiday..
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#30451 - 05/05/08 08:10 AM Re: Curious is AFC a step forward? [Re: Mark.E]
Geoff Hannis Geoff Hannis Hero Registered: 12/02/04 Posts: 3044 Loc: the path less trodden	As you've already put time in with the NHS, Mark, you must already know the truth about AfC. Please spare us the "joys" of dragging it all out again here! Enough already! They same "you should never go back", Mate. In this case I would say that's probably good advice! $\:\)$ PS: Yeah, it's raining here too (of course)!
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#30452 - 05/05/08 09:55 AM Re: Curious is AFC a step forward? [Re: Geoff Hannis]
Darth Welder Darth Welder Scholar Registered: 19/09/06 Posts: 64 Loc: Germany	As I have never worked in the NHS and i am not being funny when asking - What is AFC? DW - It's not a Bank Holiday where i am today and have to work!
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#30453 - 05/05/08 10:12 AM Re: Curious is AFC a step forward? [Re: Darth Welder]
Geoff Hannis Geoff Hannis Hero Registered: 12/02/04 Posts: 3044 Loc: the path less trodden	Sometimes it's better to remain in the Dark, Darth. But if you really want to know (and have a few hours to spare) ... better check-out this little lot! $\:\)$
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#30455 - 05/05/08 12:09 PM Re: Curious is AFC a step forward? [Re: Geoff Hannis]
Darth Welder Darth Welder Scholar Registered: 19/09/06 Posts: 64 Loc: Germany	:)Cheers mate - Will have a look but if it gets to much i will go back harrassing the "Whalley" - I am sure you know what I mean!
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#30457 - 05/05/08 12:17 PM Re: Curious is AFC a step forward? [Re: Darth Welder]
Geoff Hannis Geoff Hannis Hero Registered: 12/02/04 Posts: 3044 Loc: the path less trodden	The lesser of two evils? $;\)$
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#30461 - 05/05/08 03:17 PM Re: Curious is AFC a step forward? [Re: Mark.E]
Chris Watts Chris Watts Expert Registered: 21/12/04 Posts: 135 Loc: UBHT	Originally Posted By: Mark.E Now call me stupid (and I have been many times.. thick skinned now!) but wasn't AFC supposed to be a way of recruiting and retaining people.. or have I missed the point.. or the reality of the situation? The point of AFC was supposed to be that the someone doing the same job got the same pay and had a correlation to other jobs. It didn't do anything for recruiting and retaining, that what recruitment and retention premium was created for.
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#30462 - 05/05/08 04:18 PM Re: Curious is AFC a step forward? [Re: Chris Watts]
Dicky Dicky Mentor Registered: 21/06/03 Posts: 178 Loc: Cumbria	Has any EBME tech ever received the recruitment and retention premium ? Or is that a silly question? _________________________ Age and treachery will always overcome youth and skill. Bullsh*t and brilliance only come with age and experience.
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#30463 - 05/05/08 11:22 PM Re: Curious is AFC a step forward? [Re: Dicky]
JohnBhoy JohnBhoy Savant Registered: 12/06/03 Posts: 107 Loc: Royal Berkshire Hospital	I doubt it. Most departments do not struggle to recruit. If any offer it, I would suspect it would be more remote hospitals. I also expect Linac engineers to get R&R soon as there is a shortage of them. _________________________ I am like good quality butter. Spread me to thin you may as well use Marg.
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#30464 - 05/05/08 11:25 PM Re: Curious is AFC a step forward? [Re: JohnBhoy]
JohnBhoy JohnBhoy Savant Registered: 12/06/03 Posts: 107 Loc: Royal Berkshire Hospital	Anyway, I agree with Geoff, enough of this subject......... Enough _________________________ I am like good quality butter. Spread me to thin you may as well use Marg.
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