I'm sorry to see this debate fall into the realms of handbags! It’s too serious an issue to reduce to name calling or back biting. I believe the main problem is the lack of up to date information and open debate. I realise this has all been said before but due to the poor dissemination of information most of the people that will be affected have not had a chance to assess the situation. It is a fact that EBME staff would make up the majority of a group such as that recommended by the VRCT. It is also a fact that most EBME staff do not know what is going on. In a previous posting I mentioned that most of the biomeds that I have met at various courses/ seminars are totally unaware of the VRCT or that their jobs may have to change. I would like to ask the VRCT committee to get in touch with as many of the affected groups as possible and get the information out there. We need to know who is affected by the proposal and a breakdown of the numbers involved. As Mr. L above demanded, can we have the facts and figures please?