I'm not a technician, I'm an engineer, is it me being snobby, I suppose so, but the degree and experience sets me apart from the technician as an engineer. An engineer is someone who can diagnose, remedy and then produce a solution, unfortunately this doesn't seem to happen in the ebme world. Sorry Geoff but a technician has the ability to do what the manual tells him to do, the engineer has the ability to apply all principles to a problem and solve with or without of a manual. Hence I believe that all ebme techs should justify their very jobs with IENG registration.