EBME Forums Forums Management Medical Equipment Management Feedback on BBraun Infosomat/Perfusor Space pumps

We are about the replace our syringe and infusion pumps. We are down to 2 companies, Alaris and BBraun. Right now the BBraun seem to have the edge.

Just wanted to know if anybody is using these pumps and what you think of them?

Thanks

dear friend,
i have used many of these pumps , these are good ,you are two consider two things , 1. earlier these were not compatible for all size of syringe , now they claim thaT they have improved the model. secondly if you are buy large number pumps make sure they give u calibration software and gadget,


regards
ashoke

Hi,

We have been using B Braun pumps for the past 8 years.Perfuser compact and Perfuser compact S seems to be good model.The limitation of perfuser compact being the maximum rate that can be set-maximum 99.9 ml/hr.This can be compensated by perfuser compact S.The pumps are comparatively more sturdy and complaint free compared to their Perfuser fm.Ofcourse wehave the calibartion and servise key and software.Perfuser compact/S ,the syringe loading mechanism is manual compared to Perfuser fm.

Regarding Infusion pump B braun pumps are good enough but again the infusion set of Braun only assures correct rate.

hope this gives you some info.


Mininair

Dear Mike,
Which model you are looking from BBraun?
Infusomat-P or Fm
perfusor fm or compact

There are differences in price,specifications, quality and options available.Please be clear about your requirement first ( ICU/ward/type of medicine/flowrate required/consumable ( syringe /infusion set) availability in your part of the world) then finalise by keeping Mr.Ashoke's and Ms.Mini's tips in mind too.
Best of luck

Sajeev

We use Alaris P7000 in ICU, Childrens, Neo Natal Unit and all the general wards as required. They are accurate, reliable, easy to configure and are straight forward to maintain. Not sure what the companies latest offerings are though.
Topper
ICU Technologist

We use Alaris as the standard in all areas in our hospital and I would agree with everything said in support of the pumps. I would like to add that Alaris are a good company to deal with, spares are readily available, and their support is second to none.

Forgot to mention, the Alaris pumps can be grouped in fours using the PCAM Flexipole (1 Mains flex).
I have heard from our Heart Centre Techs of problems with their pumps (Braun)but i can't remember what they were. During a proposed merger plan of our general ITU and Cardiac ITU, the Gen. ITU staff had the Brauns over to get use to them, they disliked them and stuck to the P7's.
Topper
ICU Technologist

We are currently evaluating the Braun Space range of pumps. The report will be available through the CEP website (see link below) in a few months. In the meantime, it might be worth your having a look at these pumps, they have features in advance of the fm and compact ranges..

On the topic of evaluations, the evaluation service which provides the familiar blue cover evaluation reports is now managed by NHS PASA, with a few resultant changes. Items will only get evaluated if they are proposed for evaluation, by people such as you, using the form at http://www.pasa.nhs.uk/evaluation/propose_project/

Please use this form if there are any items of medical equipment you want evaluating. If no projects are proposed, then no evaluations will take place. It is now truly YOUR service.
Use it or lose it.. (!!)

You might also be interested to know that the service now covers social services, and has a strong agenda towards innovation (products and procedures), so be sure to include items from these categories as well. Don't be constrained by what we have previously covered.

Regards
Teresa Dunn (BIME)

Dear Mike,
There are few other manufacturers too.Check their website for more details
1.TERUMO
2.GRASEBY
3.ARGUS
4.JMS
5.NIPRO
6.TOP
7.FRESENIUS
8.BAXTER

Regards
Sajeev

Hi Mike,
In 2004 I carryed out a syringe/infusion pump tender for our new Heart & Lung Centre. After an extensive evaluation we decided to go with Braun. We purchased 287x Perfusor Space (syringe) pumps, 75x Infusomat Space (volumetric) pumps and 69x Space Stations (docking stations). We were probable the first hospital in the UK to go with their new range of pumps particularly regards to a large volume.

Some of the main criteria why we chose Braun was:

1) The syringe and volumetric pumps look identical, i.e. the controls and operation of these devices are the same....which has huge advantages from a training point of view (particularly when around 400 new staff had to be trained which the Braun's trainers carried out extremley well) including benefits from a clinical safety side.
2) Due to the fact that our patients are transfered alot i.e. Ward to Theatres to CCU etc with pumps, manual handling/transfer of pumps was an important factor we took into great consideration. With the new Braun space pumps being one of the most compact and light pumps on the market was another advantage, not forgetting their well designed docking stations.
3) Since at the time we were going to go with a clinical information system, the importance of a good interface had to exist with the docking stations. Brauns docking stations had one of the most comprehensive interfacing connections available i.e. inc USB, wireless connection which came out on top.
4) Reducing drug error was another key criteria and Braun like the other manufacturers had a good software package.

As you all know with any new product/software release you will get teething problems, and as Topper mentions above we did experience these as you would expect, which we envisgaed and took into account from the onset of going with Braun. However what is more important is how the company deals with the problems. The reason why General ICU went back to using their P7000 pumps was due to the cancelation of the merger.

The feedback I can give you after having these pumps for nearly 2 years now and working with Braun to resolve the issues as a partnership, I can list below:

a) Regards the pumps Braun have carryed out a number of software/hardware upgrades which have made them more robust and reliable. At present we are in the process of implementing their Drug Library sotware in their pumps.
b) Regards the back up support we have had from Braun as a company, I can honestly say has been excellent, i.e. from their Sales, Clinical Trainers and their Technical Support. I make this statement in light of dealing with medical companies now for over 18 years and having carried out in excess of 70 equipment tenders worth £8million pounds in 2004 for our Heart & Lung Centre.

I hope this feedback is of some value and do apreciate that every hospital is different with different criteria that needs to be met. Please feel free to email me if you require further information.
Regards
Kam