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Promoting it so it doen't disappear up its own backside, i.e. it becomes even less recognised relative to other professions that have since become regulated, than it is now. VRCT was actually setup to enable a transition to the HPC register, in fact.

Hi Topper, having read some of what has been said, I would like to shove a tanners worth in support of you.
When someone tries to control a point of view from an individual then that is nothing short of disgraceful. Forums are about free speech and exactly that. Censorship or censure should not be allowed. What is being said by an individual is their point of view but bullying to shut someone up to curtail the tread should not be allowed. So lets have an open forum.... Ah Hum..... The government would like to control every aspect of our lives if only it could. So to work we have someones "notion" "lets organise lets regulate lets control". So you have a job and have it for many years you do the job with no problems and hey presto someone comes along with the power to take that job off you just because you don't bend to the idea of paying Mr Brown and his cronies some more of your hard earned cash as another Stealth Tax. Of course there is always the union fighting to get your subs paid... but what if I am not in a union (after all it is a free country) what if nobody was in a union... just by the fact that concessions have been made indicates that the Stealth Tax was wrong "Registration Fees" in the first place. Remember when things go wrong it is usually because someone has decided to fix what was not broken in the first place. VRCT appeared from nowhere in an instant just like the universe and guess what you have to pay for the priveledge of keeping your job sounds a bit like a car parking charge levied by a Wheel Clamper does'nt it. I like my job but I abhore state interference driven by agents of the state in their many guises and some of them seem to be appearing in this thread. As for Unions what union negotiates a pay cut for it members... all of them ... why because they are all in the pockets of this sleazy government. All spelling mistakes are on purpose .... why because I Can!

It has been mentioned that under the pay deal for last year the nurses were awarded that over genourous £42 all good when there fees for the year are nearly £90 now. So anyone who is under the illusion that when the registration comes that they wont hike the price up every year will be sorely disappointed.

If it aint in your contract what are they going to do. Everyone is entitled to spend their money as they feel fit but this getting on the band wagon as it is cheaper now. (Cheaper than what!!!)

Ill wait until the end I think, the money is better in my pocket.

I think that bringing party politics into a discussion that's centered around occupational standards and regulation is disgraceful and does not contribute to the discusion whatsoever -it's politically biased and irrelevant. Not the first time that individuals on this site have expressed political and racial views on this site when they're irrelevant. Regulation has been discussed for years and years, prior to this, the previous government and the one before that, in fact. Labour and Conservative, to my knowledge.

Not once in this thread has anyone suggested that others are are not entitled to an opinion - but if individuals aren't fully aware of what they're discussing then it's easy to end up in a weak position. However politics should be left for politicians - on a soapbox elsewhere than this forum in fact. there are plenty of political forums out there. No-ones suggested anyone is going to lose a job that any individual wishes to control or that anyone is bullying. You are talking absolute rubbish Tim (in my opinion) Nothing to do with VRCT - just your own politically motivated ramblings it seems. Keep to the thread please.

Tell me how long you've been working in your job and maybe Jim Methven would be kind enough to inform us how long that the various associations involved have been trying to push registration for technicians in healthcare.

VRCT is administered using the dues from registrants - 2,750 registrants - add it up - it's not a fortune, relatively speaking, at a tenner a go. VRCT is administered by a charity (IPEM) so I guess very little goes to the government coffers?


You've got a job with entitlements that I and colleagues who have paid trades union subs for all their working life have contributed to - you probably haven't but your certainly happy to benefit from the cost of living rises and benefits that are negotiated every year by the unions, eh?

Something is better than nothing in the NHS (or should I say something for nothing in your case, perhaps?) - as is collective bargaining (in my opinion).


Not true - I've been included on the VRCT for 8 years and regulation has been discussed much longer than that. I suggest you get your facts right before you shoot your mouth off in public.


This is an outrageous statement that you ought to be taken to task for - completely untrue if you're inferring that my motives are political - I have no political or government affiliations whatsoever and I've nothing to do with VRCT other than being included on the register - like 2-3,000 others are.

In fact I feel so strongly about problems I perceive with the political system that I've never voted in my life and I never will until we have proportional representation. I won't participate in something I don't believe in - much like you won't, it seems, without the bitterness and bile I might add.

I don't think party politics and issues with government should be brought into soemthing like VRCT that's been kicked about for years and years, not just "popped up out of nowhere".


I got a better pay deal out of AFC actually - I suspect there are a lot of individuals in medical engineering that did Ok (but didn't expect to) out of AFC. In my opinion precisely because the unions attempted to set things right, i.e. make sure that employers didn't do us wrong, especially after the farce concerning consultation and representations from staff willing to speak out about injustices in the system.

Gentlemen I think this is getting a little bit out of hand now!! Please stick to the thread I now everyone has personal opinions, but please don't air your dirty linen in public!!

... so, what else is new?

I have to ask the question 'Why has certain people been pushing for registration'. For whos benefit. Not for mine that is for sure. Some say its for our protection 'I say [censored]'. Some say it is to protect patients 'I say it didnt protect the patients murdered by registered Doctors and Nurses over the years' (Recent case in point). Some say its to give us a training goal, 'Who pays for it', because I know our trust and many others in this financial climate wont stump up the money.


So can anyone really hand on heart tell us what we are getting from this or any other registration.

I know somone will come back with the line 'Its to check the person can do the job', but is that not what references are for.

You're right Noddy.
I have to allow the 'right to reply' though.

But you are correct, let's steer this back on course, gents.

Yes ... nothing!



Yes, ... indeed!

And if it's about training (which it isn't), see the current theard about ICC BMET Certification.