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Here's a thread that may be worth a second airing. How about it, Roger (...Eddie)? smile


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Oh yes!

Are you referring to the on-call services that we discussed on the other thread and that may have linkage over to this thread?



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I thought we might hear some more stories about Post-it Notes! wink


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Heres a maintenance request I received yesterday!
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Dear Engineer, please attend ICU urgent as the long shiny thing on the right hand side "rear view" has detached from the blue part of the main unit itself! URGENT


Yes it was the breathing circuit cradle on an Evita Dura! funny thing was we figured it out from the request detail!

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Wow Eddie ... you have got them well trained! But allow me to make two observations:-

1) Am I right in guessing that you have an "on-line" reporting system there (no Post-It's)?

2) That's a good example of when a phone call from ICU would have been more expedient. smile

In sympathy with others who have posted earlier on this thread, I would say (and in my experience) that it makes little difference how faults get reported, just as long as they do get reported. On the other hand (and again, as I have seen), rigid reporting protocols (this box must be filled in, where is the asset code ... and all that b*******) have the opposite effect to the one intended. Staff get intimidated by dogmatic procedures, and faults go unreported ... with the result that we find kit, alone and broken, forlorn (and quietly weeping?), hidden somewhere at the back of nowhere.

To my mind, what happens after the fault has been reported is what really matters. That is, a timely and efficient response by the biomeds.

In many of my previous lives I have found the need to (attempt to) rebuild good relations (between biomed and the user departments) that had earlier been mortally wounded by others. Invariably by Thought Police types who seem to be hired especially to man so-called Help Desks! That, or the ex-boiler mechanics that sometimes end up in the role of Hospital Engineer. Often, the "official" system needed to be short circuited altogether!

And lastly (as you may imagine), I am also not in favour of on-line (computer network) reporting systems. I'm thinking here of the type that presents the user with a database-style "screen", with the dreaded "boxes" that must be filled in. Again, bad juju (the designer may have been proud of it, but it would have been ill-conceived). Not every nurse is a computer aficionado. However, the more modern intranet (email style) is OK, as it allows the informal "post-it" style to be used!

And finally lastly (!) ... twenty-odd years ago, at one well known shining "monument to engineers and architects", we were all suitably impressed by the Wang terminals (keyboard, screen) that appeared seemingly on every desk, reception counter and nurses' station. Oh yes! What a system! State of the art, Old Chap! That is, until the Ministry took over ... and promptly removed them all. The reason for this decision (a wise one, in retrospect) is that they wanted to employ locals. And "goffer" (or Office Peon as they were rather quaintly called) was a role for which many were readily suited.

Ah yes ... another example of "appropriate technology"!


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Quote:
1) Am I right in guessing that you have an "on-line" reporting system there (no Post-It's)?

Yes we do, its our formal way of requesting a maintenance call! Also once its on the system no one can duck the job!

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2) That's a good example of when a phone call from ICU would have been more expedient.

We take phone-calls 24/7 but the end user MUST also raise the maintenance request via our on line system!
Jobs are then simply allocated to the relevant tech!

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Yes, Mate, I'm familiar with that type of approach. Does anyone ever go back and clear out all the garbage from the originator's data base?

Once logged into the department (biomed) system, no one should be able to duck the job, either!

But, surely you're not working amongst "duckers", are you? wink


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I suppose the good thing about logging the job online is they will have a unique job reference. I wish we would start using an online system... tired


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Job report pads with sequential numbering have been available since before you and I were even born! smile

And surely you must have a database?


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We have them, but the users prefer use a scrap of paper with the classic 'not working - need back asap' notice.

Yes we have a database - we have GE's Asset Plus, but again we get a few items come in (say a sphyg.) and they do not state who sent it or who owns it.

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