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#7673 24/12/02 12:55 PM
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Hi - Merry Christmas everyone, smile

For what it's worth being ex RAF and very happy with the military sytem,[back in the good old days of the Vulcan Bomber] I prefer the 24 hour clock and GMT at all times, if that is too difficult for anyone to get their head around, then the question has to be asked, ''How come your in such a technical job?'' this must go for doctors & nurses as well. rolleyes

Come on all you HOD's get your act together!

Cheers everyone, have a good one. wink

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Wouldn't it be simpler to get the government to drop daylight saving and remain on GMT 365 days of the year rather than try to get a consensus of agreement within the NHS?

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Seems to me that the only sensible thing to do in UK hospitals is to set all clocked equipment to GMT and leave them there. After all, in our modern globalized world, surely we should all be synchronized to Universal Time anyway? Happily for us Brits, UT and GMT are effectively the same. Of course, it goes without saying (I hope) that anything else other than the 24-hour clock format will be consigned to the bin of time.

Biomeds in other parts of the world can make up their own minds, but I would suggest forgetting about BST, Daylight Saving Time and all the rest. All these different ways of recording time, are, after all, a throw-back to an earlier age. The world has moved on! Except that is, if you are getting your time signal from the NPL. Anyway, surely Internet Time is the way to go? smile

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Let's not forget the Unix Epoch, which brings us to the next Y2K or Y2K38 (January 19, 2038).

Most PHP & Perl is coded with this eek

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Happily, I doubt that I'll be around to worry about the year 2038 of the current era, Huw. But I have already invented the Life and the milli-Life, to go with the Day and the milli-Day. I define one Life as 1,000 moons, based upon the concept of one lunar month = 1 milli-Life. A Life works out at around 80 years, which is a fair innings, I reckon. Meanwhile, a milli-Day works out at 86.4 seconds, which is quite a handy period of time, when you think about it! smile


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But are you working on the Julian or Gregorian calendar??!!!!!

At the end of the day (23hours 59 mins 59.1 secs), time just seems to go too fast these days and there isn't enough hours in the day to get everything done (outside of work of course).

Apparently, the ISO standard for time denotion is ISO 8601 !!


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Daylight Saving Time, or British Summer Time as it is known here, was an idea dreamed up by a builder living in Petts Wood, Kent. His name was William Willett (1857-1915), and in 1907 he circulated a pamphlet to Members of Parliament, town councils and businesses, observing that "for nearly half the year the sun shines upon the land for several hours each day while we are asleep, and is rapidly nearing the horizon, having already passed its western limit, when we reach home from work before it is over" (notice that he was talking about then, not now). He obviously hadn't considered getting up earlier!

His proposal was to "improve health and happiness" (?) by advancing the clocks twenty minutes on each of four Sundays in April, and by reversing this idea by the same amount on four Sundays in September. He reckoned that it would not only improve health and happiness but it would save the country £ 2.5 million (even after taking into account the loss of earnings to the producers of artificial light).

Though the scheme was ridiculed and met with considerable opposition, a Daylight Saving Bill was introduced in 1909, though it met with no success before war broke out in 1914.

In April 1916, Daylight Saving Time was introduced as a "wartime economy measure", not only in Britain but, within a week or so, in nearly all countries, both allied and enemy. Sadly, William had died the previous year so never saw his idea put into effect.

Although most countries abandoned Daylight Saving Time after the First World War, many reintroduced it eventually, and some even began to keep it throughout the year (now, there's an idea)!

From 1968 until 1971 Britain tried the experiment of keeping BST (to be called British Standard Time) throughout the year. This was mainly for commercial (political?) reasons because Britain would then conform to the time kept by other European Countries. However, it was not good for the children of Scotland as it meant they had to go to school in the dark during the winter months (no-one thought of adjusting school hours, apparently). The experiment was abandoned in 1972, and Britain has reverted to keeping GMT in winter and BST in summer since then.

It should be noted also that it is Brussels (that is, EU bureaucrats) who decree the start and end dates of British Summer Time, not Greenwich. And no, we don't want to stick to Central European Time (one hour ahead of GMT)!

Thank you very much Mr. Willett. You changed the world, as well as the clocks (in the days when there was only one in the house)! But things have moved on a tad in the last hundred years or so, and now we all inhabit a "Global Village" and keep (what we may refer to as) internet hours. So now Mr. Hannis would like to start the ball rolling to retain GMT throughout the year. Think Zulu! smile


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Sounds like a good idea to me Geoff. Just getting used to the light mornings, I guess we,ll be back in the Dark again for a couple of weeks after the changeover, plus all the De-fibs etc to change the time on. Oh well never mind !! Ha Ha At least its getting a tad warmer. T.

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Surely the National Health Service could agree to "synchronize watches" to Zulu (that is, GMT) at all times? That way, all doubts (sometimes rather nebulous, in my view) about the timing of patient events would be eliminated (that is, they would always be deemed to be timed with respect to GMT). How many man-hours would be saved in changing all those system clocks twice a year?

In fact, why stop there? Why not GMT throughout England at all times? Scotland can adopt whatever scheme it prefers! smile


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My PC and PDA update automatically why can't medical devices do it?
Those too simple to do this probably do not have enough technology to have down load logs etc anyway.
Robert


My spelling is not bad. I am typing this on a Medigenic keyboard and I blame that for all my typos.
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