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#38693 04/06/09 6:25 PM
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Does anyone know if there are standards or a place that have generic specifications so i can start writing my Capital Tender purchase specs. I need to have generic specs for alot of machinery and need to spend befoe the money goes to a new office !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! in management.
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ERRATIC MEANS STATIC SO BE ERRATIC AND NOT STATIC
WE ARE ALL IN THE NHS AND THIS IS
"ERRATIC AND STATIC"
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What type of kit are you thinking of, Paul? smile


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Dear Paul,

Hope you got my mail.And the same you were looking

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i have the list ofequpment specification but i dont know how to attach here

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Are you giving the specifications away for free?


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You know, it's interesting that you should pose that question, Neil ... as I have just fired off quite a lengthy rebuttal to a gentleman on another forum who had the temerity to suggest that some of the classic computer equipment I had up for sale was er, a little over-priced!

I won't go to great lengths about "Economics 101: cost and price (two entirely different things)" etc. here (mainly because I know that most visitors to this forum are not interested in that sort of thing), but I will say this:-

Over the years I have tried all sorts. Over-charging, under-charging, working for nothing, working out costs to the n-th degree, all the rest and everything else in-between. Learning the hard way (as usual), I have come to realise that there is an art to selling, whether it be in small ads, on eBay, or off the back of a barrow (or wherever). For instance, when clearing out stuff in the past, I have sometimes literally tried to give stuff away (rather than having to load it back into the van in a muddy field at the end of a car-boot sale). But people wouldn't take it. Yet, with a change of tactic, by doubling the price the following week, the same stuff went within an hour (it could even have been the same guy)!

Why is that? It's what I call the "perception of quality". If something is pitched too low (or even for nothing, or next to nothing), it's perceived as being junk ("there must be something wrong with it"). However, on the other hand, if something is correctly (or even outrageously) priced, chances are it will sell, sooner or later ... because it's seen as something of value. Just think about art, antiques and [censored] like that! Heck ... never mind objet d'art ... what about (new) medical equipment?

It also works with computer software. If you give it away, you don't even get feedback from the users. And I speak from experience here of having hundreds of "users" whom I never hear from. They're probably too embarrassed to admit to using free stuff, I imagine. Either that, or worried that I might sting them for updates (or whatever). Why did I do that (give stuff away that I had spent hundreds - thousands - of hours working on)? Marketing:- finding out if there was a need. Finding out what users actually wanted. Exposure. "Spreading the word". Marketing 101:- marketing and advertising (again, two entirely different things).

And now, with my involvement in "charity" work, I have come to doubt the wisdom in working literally for nothing, and simply giving away equipment (however desperately in need the recipient may be). I have come to believe that only when the person actually pays for an item is its real value appreciated. It doesn't have to be much (in the case of the charity scenario), but just something sufficient (a token, if you like) to promote not only pride of ownership, but also an empowerment granted to the (now) buyer that would be lacking with the "take it or leave it" model!

If a person pays for something, then s/he has the right to "enquire" when something goes wrong. But what rights do the recipient of hand-outs have? Man, they don't even get to keep their self-respect!

This is one of the reasons why personally, I always charge at least a nominal amount for my efforts (and my time), and always offer at least a tin of biscuits when I'm out scrounging kit!

The bottom line here is:- yes, never simply give stuff (or your time, etc.) away. Believe me (and I know), you are no more highly thought of (and it could well even be the reverse)! And not only that, you are doing a disservice to the the new "owner" (you could even call it an insult)! smile


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"If it's free it ain't worth having" springs to mind, if on the other hand it is "free on-line" because they want you redirected to their web page that may work.
Why spend hours, days etc. toiling away just to give something away?


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It's FREE from ECRI and the like once you have paid the subscription


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Originally Posted By: Neil Porter
... hours, days etc. ...

How about months, years etc.?

By the way, ECRI's stuff is not for free ... "not for profit" is the phrase they use! smile

Meanwhile, some Wise Old Dude or other once mumbled:- "It's almost as if you can only judge the success of what you do by how much people will pay you for it".

That, of course, depends upon what we mean by the word "success"!

And, there again, over 150 years ago another much-quoted figure apparently said something like:- "Philosophers have interpreted the world in various ways, the point however is to change it"!

True democracy, and collective ownership of property, and the means of wealth. How's that for a Generic Specification?

Or, if you like (and whilst the guy is still reasonably fresh in our minds), why not take a look at the lyrics to Michael Jackson's "Man in the Mirror"?


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I said free once you pay the subscription "GOLD" I think it is very expensive and requires annual renewal, I am in the middle of a tender, now sitting on a few committees, they are my specs so that I am sure that we will get the right equipment at the right price. Do not need equipment from fly-by-night agencies who will disappear once they have the check.
These specs took time to develop and are not free.


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