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Indeed, nice one Topper, we aren't all lazy/arrogent/spreadsheet reading/just going to meetings bast**ds but indeed to try to
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engages staff, communicates with them, takes their concerns forward, acts on their suggestions (if they are plausible), deligates responsibility and automony and above all supports them


.... and, to get back on subject, if you don't like where you are..... move, (or "get on your bike" as I seem to remember one Norman Tebbit say many years back)


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It may be getting of-topic, but at least Jordan will see some of the issues in front of him and hopefully he can make an informed choice as to the career in front of him, personally I prefer people to work their way up the ladder rather than starting at the top, at least then they actually know and understand what they are talking about.

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starting at the top almost always going to be a disaster. Very, very few can do it (just ask Prince Charles).


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Which of the Wise Old Dudes was it who mumbled something like:-

"Be not afraid of greatness; some are born great, some achieve greatness, and others have greatness thrust upon them." smile


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at least Jordan will see some of the issues in front of him and hopefully he can make an informed choice as to the career in front of him


Frankly Jordan, given what you are seeing here, you might want to "run a mile" and join a different industry !! They are all mad (except me of course). crazy

Night all.

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Never took 'greatness' serious enough, responsibility I take serious.


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@Neil

Yeah, who gives a Tinker's Cuss about their Goddamned egos!

@Dave

Surely not! The lad must be all fired up by now, no doubt! smile

One last piece of "wisdom":-

"Know what you want from life, and if what you want is within your reach, take it and be content!"

(and, believe me, that's the best advice I can give)


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Genius! 99% madness 1% ****-****


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Originally Posted By: Jordan621268
Originally Posted By: Cyberdog
Originally Posted By: Jordan621268

I was under the impression that a qualification like a degree, say, was to show the level of competence you're able to work to, which should be equivalent to a certain number of years experience. Maybe I'm wrong? So I should be on a higher band to conclude.


If that were true, then a HND would outweigh a Degree, as it is a much more "hands on" qualification as opposed to the theoretical work of a degree.


Hi Cyberdog,

I'm on the HNC now and it is just as academic as the degree was, not very "hands on" at all. The qualification might have changed from what it once was, and employers always ask for it but it is really just equivalent to the 2nd year of an honours degree.


I recently read that an HNC would give you approximately 100 'points' towards a degree - honours or otherwise. You would need 300 points for a basic degree and 360 for honours.

So HNC = 1st year degree.

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Huw's not wrong, I already had an HNC and it only got me off the first year of a degree. Alternatively there is the Foundation Degree (the Mickey Mouse Foundation that is!).

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