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Almost four years later ... and we're still waiting. smile

OK, let's give this one another airing, shall we?

(I came across this thread in the way I often do - that is, whilst looking for something else)


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Any update on this thread a lot of time has passed would be good to get an update.

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From what I've seen this largely failed because the suppliers just couldnt provide the "full" services the EBME's could all considered.
Quite a few started offering really low (what looked like competative contracts) but once you look into them its £££ out of the coffers all the way.
And whether you like it or not MES is there for one thing to make the provider money otherwise they wouldnt be in business. Whereas EBME look for a win win situation on the trusts behalf every time, its their job.
Just my opinion.

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Today's acronyms become yesterday's anachronisms, buzzwords come and go ... and time marches on.

Meanwhile, technology changes, and the kit (growing in number, year on year) remains to be supported, and even fixed.

There remains only a relatively small number of what may even be (in the UK at least) a dwindling band of techs available (and dare I say, willing, capable and all the rest) to carry out such work.

Myself, I have always considered selling maintenance services into government hospitals in the UK a difficult "business model" (different rules may - and indeed, do - apply in other parts of the world). The suits are always looking to save money, when what is often actually needed to reach a decent level of service are more rather than less resources.

The bottom line is:- in-house is best (or, at least, should be) ... if it can be achieved. smile

Sometimes it can't, for any number of reasons (location, new builds, some sort of temporary or transitionary situation, failure to recruit, etc., etc.). And that's when other methods may need to be employed (if only in the short term) in order to get the work done.

In my experience (in the UK) the "outsourced" model in general has met with some success only in what I would call "failing hospitals". That is, those who, for whatever reason*, have not been able to develop a decent crew in-house.

If anyone wants any more guidance on stuff like this ... feel free to get in touch! whistle

* Typically managerial incompetence.


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