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#69747 10/09/15 2:37 PM
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I just wondered why the Home page carries under the 'News' that Six NHS trusts have 'persistently' high death rates with the date 31 Aug 2015; admittedly big news but as the article it is taken from appears to have been that written by Jane Kirby for the Independent on Wednesday 29 January 2014, 19 months before, is it new News?

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Perhaps the admin was half asleep and made an error. blush

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You're right, Lee ... it's not "news" at; in fact most (if not all) of the Hospital Trusts mentioned are simply just the "usual suspects". The list would have been almost identical had it been published ten or more years before. frown

Meanwhile, plenty of other "real" news sources remain available. Some of them (but only a few) actually report the truth!

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Just been having a quick Google.

Two days before the Independent released their article which was based on information for the period July 2011 to June 2013; the Health and Social Care Information Centre released "The Summary Hospital-level Mortality Indicator (SHMI) - Deaths associated with hospitalisation, England, July 2013 - June 2014"

Six Trusts in the Independent article, nine in the HSCIC for the following year; only two Trusts recorded in both.

I do not know how the maths was done but from my memory normal distribution graphs show bell shape curves; there are always going to be some Trusts performing better than average and some worse.

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Hopefully it is common knowledge that "numbers" (and statistics) are massaged (selected, manipulated) according to whichever "On Message" agenda is being promoted.

We see that in the "News" every day. frown

But if anyone is really interested in digging a little deeper (aka getting at the truth of any matter), then they should always seek out the source(s) - the original documents, and who (which biased gang) produced them, and what the probable motives were.

More Common Wisdom has it that we should always "follow the money" when trying to ferret-out why a particular line is being taken. In other words:- who paid whom to say what (and why)?

With regards to "failing hospitals" - yes, the Law of Averages applies (as it always does) ... but they don't always have to be the same ones! whistle

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This was an unusual error on my part... I normally trawl the NHS press releases each month to look for something I think our members would be interested in. I normally start with DoH press releases, but nothing particular caught my eye. Obviously, when something did catch my eye I failed to check the date. frown
My apologies, but it was nice to see that we have 'eagle eyed members' who can spot an error. Well done Lee. smile


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I didn't see this piece of news at the time; so how about some good news about the NHS?

"Among the 11 nations studied in this report-Australia, Canada, France, Germany, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Sweden, Switzerland, the United Kingdom, and the United States; the United Kingdom ranks first"

Commonwealth fund report June 16, 2014
http://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/fund-reports/2014/jun/mirror-mirror

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"...ranks first" - in *what? think

1) No. of biomed techs per 1,000 items of maintainable equipment?

2) Percentage of maintainable items of equipment covered by a PM schedule?

3) Percentage of PM procedures carried out within schedule?

4) etc., etc. ... and other metrics that may be of interest to biomeds.

As I said before, we always need to "follow the money"; that is, who paid for the report - and which agenda are they following? Could this be it:-

Quote:

U.S. Health Care Ranks Last Among Wealthy Countries


And ...

Quote:

The mission of The Commonwealth Fund is to promote a high-performing health care system that achieves better access, improved quality, and greater efficiency, particularly for society's most vulnerable, including low-income people, the uninsured, minority Americans, young children, and elderly adults.


Ah yes, now I see it. frown

* I would suggest:- box ticking!

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Another piece of good news

Hereford's Wye Valley NHS Trust is out of special measures; 3 November 2016 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hereford-worcester-37851974

Come on John, let's try and find some good news.

Lee


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The trust said the outcome was "great news for residents".


So, what's the problem? think


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