Oh dear, I have struck a nerve hav'nt I, still it goes to prove a point.. There are those that are wise and those that are not. The fee aspect of registration is important in this discussion as it is only part of the costs involved at this point and it will become an escalator with no doubt. getting the thread back on course, I was'nt aware that it had actually moved off. An open discussion should contain the warts and all as long as the core of the issue is still there and there was nothing that I posted which deviated from that core point on this free discussion in my opinion. As for the political aspect and keeping it out of the discussion, I suggest Mr RJL does his homework (in depth) and possibly reads my comments again before he shoots his mouth off also. No union helped me get my job.... I got it on my own merits and hey the union does not pay the registration fees for me does it. To assume that I have not paid my dues during my working life is an insult from RJL to which he should be ashamed of himself for turning this healthy forum into his own personal soapbox. I note that he RJL has a lot to say but "garbage in, is garbage out" comes easily to mind.