Hi, Interesting debate since I last posted. Seems to somewhat confirm some of my views. Anyway, we are going to London May 7th to talk about Patient Safety and Medical Devices. Has anyone any views that they wish to be raised? I was particularly thinking of poor design ie Signature heat sinks and the problem of cleaning after a feed pump and its contents have leaked all over it, given the longevity of some "bugs".And Geoff, please don't say that it's the nurses responsiblity to clean them first. It won't happen. We report every case to infection control, and they act on it on every occaision, Dave L. Dave L. Apologies if I have posted this on the wrong "thread"!!!