... London just how many traffic junction cameras do you need in a 1000 yard stretch! Although there are other cities and towns where unlike Bristol driving takes a lot of concentration due to road design, I can only assume they like roundabouts in Milton Keynes?

It does seem that some planning in some cities has been done in a sloppy manner, just think of Bradley Stoke, it's only recently that it's finally got local facilities. Where as the new Cabot Circus complex was so well planned that the lack of traffic problems on their first day of opening was a welcome embarrassment.

Harvey Nichols claimed that Bristol was one of the best places to live, no prizes for guessing where the other six was grin It was also claimed to be the greenest city in England (in the days before green was associated with the enviroment) Last time I checked it had the largest urban fox population and apparently your never more than 20 yards from someone who'll tell you your never 20 yards from a rat and if Bristol's good for the rats who can argue!