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It has just come to our attention that there has been a subtle change in the Dinamap Pro series.
Since the begining of the year we have been ordering Pro 300 and Pro 400 machines, what we have recieved are Pro 3NV2 and 310, and 400V2 and 410. This was only evident on one machine which had a PRO 400 V2 faceplate, the rest had the Pro 300 & 400 faceplates. On the label underneath where the serial No. is was stated model 410.
The difference in these models is the SpO2 interconnect cable, the later models being similar, except the colour of the plug (mauve) and a small raised elongated pimple that mates through a small cutout on the machine front.
The other difference is that the older type interconnect leads will fit, but does not work.
This was discovered when we sent a unit back under warranty repair and returned with a report that the wrong interconnect cable was fitted.
In spite of a fairly large inventory of these machines, and supplies of more than a dozen in the last 12 months, we were not made aware either of the change or the incompatability of the older cable.
We have now checked all Dinamaps to ensure that they have the correct SpO2 cables.
Today after many phone calls to GE and Response Medical, I was finally able to get the part No.(2008773-001) and a price of - sit down before continuing- £165. The older cable being £117.
So beware, are your new Dinamaps 310 or 410 masquerading as 300 or 400. If they are then check that the correct leads are fitted and increase your budget to get the higher cost cables when they fail or go missing.
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Ostentatiously disgusting Ray, my fellow functional. Why do we let them get away with it. We have always had problems with software, latest occurence in our new Lifepak 12’s we bought 30 of these blighters and two had a slightly older S/ware version, this only came to light after our NE’s could not set the AED preset shock down to 200 J on these models. mad

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It's not only these cables that are extortionate in cost.

We have earlier Max Personal & MAC 1 ecg m/c's and the price of the cables for these are approx £70.00. We purchased MAC 5000's last year and the cost of these cables is £218.00. The only difference between these cable is the associated connector. We queried the price but got nowhere with GE. I think this is a rip off.

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Have you tried going direct to sales, rather than service - there seems to be a markup if you source a part from service?.......I found this when I priced an acquisition cable for a MAC 5000 a few months ago.

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Do you know how much of a mark up? We did double check the prices of the other cables and they were quote at previous prices paid so the indication would be that we were quote the correct price. We also went to Response Medical and were quote similar prices as waht we previously paid.

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Ray,
The new style Sp02 interface cables can also be purchased from Tyco(£59.74)

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Just for the record - the mauve scp-10 interconnect cable means it is compatible with the new 'OXIMAX' sensors (DS-100's with an 'intelligent chip' on board)


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Quote:
Originally posted by Allan Hendry:
It's not only these cables that are extortionate in cost.

We have earlier Max Personal & MAC 1 ecg m/c's and the price of the cables for these are approx £70.00. We purchased MAC 5000's last year and the cost of these cables is £218.00. The only difference between these cable is the associated connector. We queried the price but got nowhere with GE. I think this is a rip off.
Allan,
The Mac 5000 is a totally different animal to either the MAC 1 or Max Personal, neither of which can use the Mac 5000's acquisition module, CAM 14. The cable is totally different. We have Mac 5000 and Mac 8's (the previous generation) and the cables / acquisition modules are totally uncompatible. Same goes for the Cardiosmart and the newer Mac 1100's. The engine from a Ford Galaxy won't fit into a Ford Ka. Same thing really.


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Many thanks Amanda, sorry for the delay things have been a bit crazy round here. Will look into pricing from Tyco for more of our needs.

To answer RL's comment, when you go through to GE now for parts you are sent to Response Medical, GE no longer deal direct.

Is Response Medical a part of GE?. Either way we as employees of the NHS I belive should do our best to source spares from the cheapest supplier.

Maybe we need a database of suppliers and prices so we can compare on this site.

It seems wrong to me that the cost from one supplier is £165 and from another £59.74 for the same item.
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