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A number of training organisations run MGPS courses including ourselves 'Capital Medical Training Center' running AP, CP and QC courses for MGPS. The roles and tasks of AP, CP and QC are time consuming and follow the guidelines layed out in HTM 2022 (currently being re-written). Supplement two deals with piped medical gasses in ambulance vehicles.

Normally the remit of NHS estates departments.

Courses are relatively expensive with upgrading required every three years.

I would be supprised if any EBME departments are involved with this type of work? ....then again why not?

Yes Rob, there are other organisations who offer training on PMG+V. I am quite sure all would offer a good course (didn't mean to show favouritism !).
In my humble opinion there is nothing wrong with EBME depts. doing this work,(spent many a happy hour re-assembling Mk2/Mk3/Mk4/Jem10, T.U's myself)
but i would tend to agree that these days there is that much 'mainstream' stuff for us to look after that this does tend to sit more with colleages in Estates or Works depts.
But Hey, at the this stuff learnt me a lot about the gas side of our current work (vents/anaesthesia etc).

And Yeah, O.K. some of my staff would argue that NOW, i wouldn't recognise one end of a scewdriver from the other !
But Med Gas work can be character building you know !!
Regards
Steve.

DarloSteve, I have just completed a series of MGPS courses for MOD Med and Dent technicians (EBME techs), this included AP, CP and QC. The Military currently have a number of modular theatres which are deployed at hot spots around the World, the gas supplies; associated pipe work and terminal units will be maintained and looked after by these chaps.

So yes, it is quite plausible for EBME techs to take on this roll? The same regulations (HTM2022) cover ambulances and the quality of dental air etc, so it does seem a little ludicrous for EBME techs not to be involved with this work or at least have some appreciation of the regulations?

Rob,
As Ive previously stated we do the mgps work here and I know of at least 1 other local trust that also do the work. But Im sure some of the chaps are more concerned with whether they have the time / money. That wasnt origionally what I asked. If you are in the position of already doing the work and have done so historically you must have the time / money available and if not its a case of presenting a need for more.