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EBME Services is responsible for the maintenance and repair of a diverse range of medical and communications equipment across two DGH's, and 4 PCT's.
We have two vacancies;

Post 1: MTO 3** Based at Poole Hospital NHS Trust Ref T170
This is a split role; primary responsibility will be the maintenance of the Trusts RF communications equipment (Paging, PMR and microwave), however, it is expected that this will be only for approximately 20% of your time. The remainder will be spent maintaining electro-medical equipment. Duties will include using a computerised asset management system , commissioning of new equipment, performing routine scheduled maintenance and repairs to medical devices. You must be qualified to HNC or equivalent in Electrical/Electronic engineering and have at least 5 years experience in the field RF communications.

Post 2: MTO 3 Based at Royal Bournemouth & Christchurch Hospitals NHS Trust Ref T171
We provide equipment management to RBCHT as part of a service level agreement. Duties will include using a computerised asset management system , commissioning of new equipment, performing routine scheduled maintenance and repairs to medical devices. You must be qualified to HNC or equivalent in Electrical/Electronic engineering and have at least 3 years experience in the fields of medical equipment maintenance. (MTO 3** is possible if you have +5 years of relevant experience)


Working hours 37.5 per week Monday to Friday, with the requirement to travel to other sites as necessary.

Salary:- £21,172 - £24,766 pa (pending AfC)

The department operates an informal call out system across both sites which you will be required to participate in, providing emergency cover to the Trust's Medical Devices out of hours.

Please call Alan Mainstone or Paul Horn on 01202 442244 for further information

For an application form and job description, please apply on line at www.poolehos.org. Alternatively contact the recruitment officer on 01202 442345

Closing date:- 7th June 2005

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Hi paul, could you or indeed anyone who knows what an "informal call out system" is, please expand,
many thanks in advance

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It concerns me that jobs are being advertised as "pending AFC" especially when there are obvious difficulties when Med Eng National Profiles. South Devon appear to be at Band 5 and everybody else are still holding breaths.

Jobs going to advert at my Trust are being Desktop Matched to a Band and advertised as such, with a proper review after six months - This is almost as bad, what if the review down-bands the job?

I'm waiting to see the first Band 6 Med Eng advert...... laugh

Andy


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iam interested to take the job would you like to send my resume for reference

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Dear Mr. Paul Horn
i am appling to many mto posts in nhs i am medical electronics engineer and 10 year experiance . i am working with min. of health malaysia but i never recive any call for interview . is there any thing that nhs doesent employ foriners????????????

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Hi devendra,
It's probably a good idea to confirm that you have a valid work permit.

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I have been involved with the interview of people from India and Malaysia for NHS posts. There is no bar in the NHS from employing people from abroad.
There is an EU rule that preference should be given to people from within the EU. Only if there is not a suitable person, following a lot of form filling justifying why the job is being offered to a non-EU resident, the post can then go world wide.
On an unofficial note - it is difficult to assess and hence employ people who cannot attend an interview. I have tried telephone interviews, as mentioned above, and they are very difficult to arrange and conduct.
Again unofficially - the job often entails complex communication on technical matters with hospital staff so a good command of the English language is a very desirable attribute. This not often held be people who do not use it as a first language so again this makes it harder from people outside the country.
There is no official policy apart from the EU one but I think you can understand the problems we have. On top of which there are the government work permits to obtain which again require justification of why the post is being offered abroad.
It is not just a simple problem of wanting a person and giving them a job.
In the NHS we can only employ people in to vacant posts (assuming they have not been frozen) so the speculative CV is often filed in the bin as there is nothing that can be done with it.
Depending on the HR/personnel department you usually also have to complete the official application form and submit it via them so they can assess it before forwarding them to the employing department. I often see postings on this forum from abroad saying "Can I send you my CV". This is not how the NHS works, they have their rules and we all have to abide by them.
Incidentally the replacement for my last post came from your part of the world so do not give up hope.

Robert

PS "Resume" is a nasty American word. In the UK we tend to say CV. Short for the Latin Cirriculum Vitae.


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Or, even, Curriculum Vitae. Also known as “Bio data” in some ridiculous quarters! wink


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Hi Robert,
Thank you so much for explaining the problems, which you are facing in recruiting foreign nationals and great wish. It looks reasonable and fair.
Regards
Sajeev

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Hello.
I apologise for the very 'tardy' reply to some questions posted in this thread. In mitigation though, I hav'nt been monitoring it because I assumed all relevant queries would be via telephone/mail. Any excuses made - some answers to questions.

Drew enquired about 'informal' call out system.

In short, we do not have technicians formally rostered/paid. In the event that emergency help is required, the request is routed via the EBME manager/deputy, who will in turn contact relevant personnel. Of course it runs the risk that there will be a day when the right people cannot be obtained, but the approach has been risk assessed, and the systems in place mitigate both likelihood and potential severiy of any event. It has a number of obvious advantages - among them financial cost to the Trust

On average we only respond to about 8 call outs/year. THe system has worked successfully for the last 15 years. I am happy to talk in more detail if you want to fill in the gaps. Give me a call.


Andy F. Commented on Jobs advertised as 'AfC pending'

I would agree with you that the situation is far from ideal though from our perspective it was just an unfortunate coincidence of timing.

For info, our department has now come out of the other side of AfC assimilation with a combination of Band 5 and Band 6 for its MTO 3's. The current postholder of one of the jobs advertised was graded at band 6. Assuming the successful applicant could demonstrate the necessary level of knowledge,skills and experience required, then band 6 would apply.


Suganthi - Should you send a cv/resume?

I have not been involved in the process of shortlisting for the post, and the closing date has long passed. However, if you made an application, you will hear from us one way or the other.
If you have not sent a CV or submitted an application this time round, you may be interested to know that the NHS now advertises its vacancies on line - via a system called e-rec (I don't have the address to hand), and you are able to submit on line applications for such vacancies.

Devendra - ? not getting replies to applications for NHS posts

I think RoJo' reply is a very good summation of the current position. You may also want to take a look at the on line job advertisments and application submissions system. This will at least ensure you get a reply!


Apologies again for the delay in replying - I'll monitor all threads in future.

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