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Bioman
I'm interested in your previous comment

" you are likely to be matched or evaluated by somebody who knows nothing about what you do i.e. etc."

I have been sitting on job matching panels for several months now, and in order to be able to take part in the process have received suitable training. The training, as with A4C, was jointly conducted by both staff and management representatives. I'm not sure if others within this forum have attened matching training,or will comment on it's content, but the training deliverd to me as a matcher was comprehensive and indepth. From experience I find it both easier and fairer to match jobs that are outside of my profession. Throughout the training process great emphasis is placed in not making assumptions when matching, which is easier if you don't know the job. If the information is not 100% clear in the job description we ask the post holder.
You will be matched to the job description that you have agreed, by trained matchers, whether they be a "a nurse, physio, manager from a different discipline" I would suggest that if you have such reservations that you have a chat with some job mathers from your Trust, as I am always happy to do.
Bob..

Sorry Bob

What I was trying to get at was that the matching/evaluation would be done by somebody other than Bobbyp's boss, I wasn't undermining the training that matchers and evaluators had to undertake. I was merely encouraging Bobbyp not to get too complacent on what his boss has told him which to me seems like an idle promise.

Sorry for the misunderstanding

BobbyP,

Once again your niaivity is refreshing. My mum promised me that if I ate up all my greens, I would grow up to be big & strong - regretably she lied!

Trust no-one!

Changing Tack slightly.
Has anyone had a change to working hours attached to their new job description. i.e working weekends when before you were not.

Col
Alarm bells ringing......

There are no "change of working hours" attached to job descriptions!!!!!!

If that's happening call your union rep PDQ. If your not in a union contact your A4C staff side rep.

The only cange in workimg hours connected to A4C is 37.5 hr working week and that does't happen until Oct. 2007.

Changing working hours is part of the new terms Terms & Conditions which most certainly IS related to AfC ! It might not actually say "is required to work Saturdays" in your job description, but the extended working day (and week) is most definitely on the ajenda.

Roy,

I know this, but I thought that the job descriptions were supposed to reflect what you currently do. Not what you may do in the future.
The change in working hours will be added to the revised JD and submitted to the evaluation panel.
I wonder if Bob has any advice on this?

Col

As I said: There art no working hours strings attached to A4C than there are now....
Pre A4C working hours could be changed with 12 wks notice.
Now however it can be done, but, it has to be with full partnership agreement; both staff & management have to agree the needs for the change & agree the solution.
The extended working day/week that Roy is referring to is nothing new. At the moment it's any time between 7.00-7.00
Under AC it's 8.00-8.00

Any change in your working hours has to be discussed and agreed by you, it CANNOT be forced on you by a Tyrant manager.

Doogie,

It's not so much a tyrant manager, but a wish of the department. An 'extended' service has been discussed in our department for at least 18 months. occaissionally it rears it's head. we all say no thanks and it stops for a while. All new joiners have the 'flexible hours' clause in their contract. It is now in my new Job description presented to the evaluation panel.
That is my concern. They seen to be using AFC to get their wish for a change of hours.

Just a thought, but if you had to have a new job description, you would have had to sign to say that you agreed with it.